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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: To All The Micro$oft Fat Mouths Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 21:17:10 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: <vmubkm$1qf2q$3@dont-email.me> References: <181c6665cdacd782$115936$445945$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <vmm3qv$3b2am$1@dont-email.me> <5vatojtkltme7jqei2ct4th8dkmo9b6mn7@4ax.com> <zfyjP.662408$FOb4.645903@fx15.iad> <vmnfm3$3s4es$3@dont-email.me> <zwNjP.1733435$bYV2.402179@fx17.iad> <vmq5ba$rcn6$1@dont-email.me> <Kx6kP.915786$DPl.445810@fx13.iad> <vmsqoh$1h7qa$1@dont-email.me> <vMrkP.1060721$DPl.904421@fx13.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:17:11 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="74927972495777e5ebc35553e63c7702"; logging-data="1915994"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Y9A6dTuKv87XPASfAmdja" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:AL2OJ0PWNiB7fkqPiRaiAowR3Wo= Bytes: 4511 On 2025-01-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 1/23/25 2:22 AM, RonB wrote: >> On 2025-01-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> On 1/22/25 2:05 AM, RonB wrote: >>>> On 2025-01-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 1/21/25 1:43 AM, RonB wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-01-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>> On 1/20/25 3:03 PM, Joel wrote: >>>>>>>> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 1/20/2025 7:29 AM, Lameass Loser Larry Pietraskiewicz wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> build us a perfect Pan version >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Somebody hep me get a Windows GUI! You know I can't post witout a GUI >>>>>>>>> Momma! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Distro Pan hard to use. Forte Agent under Wine very nice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pan is very simple, but also very clunky. It looks like a teenager's >>>>>>> high school Visual Basic project. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, it's not slrn, but I thought it was pretty good when I ran it several >>>>>> years ago. It reminded a lot of Xnews, which is what I used way back in my >>>>>> Windows' days. >>>>> >>>>> Much like a Visual Basic project, it does the job. I'm not a fan of its >>>>> filter system, but it is otherwise lean and useful. >>>> >>>> Pan's filter system is pretty much like slrn's — it's pretty powerful. >>> >>> Sure, but not user-friendly in the least. You can figure out how to >>> configure it through a series of searches on the Internet, but most of >>> what you would want to do can't be done from within the program. Much of >>> it requires you to edit the configuration file and to know, before you >>> start, what patterns to use to get things accomplished. At least in >>> Thunderbird's case, it works without any confusion. It still has that >>> bug that the filters won't work until you unsubscribe and resubscribe to >>> a group, but otherwise it's perfect. >> >> After looking up slrn vs Pan filters, I found out that (although the filters >> look a lot alike) there are two different "interpreters" at work. Slrn uses >> something called S-Lang while Pan uses something PCRE. Apparently simple >> filters will interchange, but the more complicated ones won't. Or something >> like that... >> >> https://news.software.readers.narkive.com/k3fYPwcP/pan-and-slrn-score-files-the-difference >> >> So I guess that's that. Although I found both Pan and slrn filters can be >> auto-generated (mostly) and what I couldn't figure out in slrn, could be >> solved an Internet search that provided the answer fairly quickly. I would >> have to know more about what filters you're creating in Thunderbird to know >> if the filter was easily reproducible in slrn. > > It doesn't matter since I have no interest in using a CLI tool to > navigate through Usenet anyway. Additionally, it would reveal to the > people I'm filtering _how_ I'm doing it, so they would easily circumvent > those filters. I understand that. That's why I don't post the filter that I think does the job for me. But CLI is better (just saying). :) -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien