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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Jimmy Stewart Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:55:27 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 106 Message-ID: <vmuktf$1psmo$5@dont-email.me> References: <vmu7ol$1phml$3@dont-email.me> <vmuag1$1psmo$1@dont-email.me> <vmub9r$1phml$6@dont-email.me> <vmugea$1psmo$3@dont-email.me> <vmuh7c$1r9vd$2@dont-email.me> <vmuige$1rove$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 00:55:28 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="659735f7ea123194e4f9848b9674858f"; logging-data="1897176"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Rrf9d9/kEFQGzb4w9K2xqB9T0T6VTpZQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:z3+5G7YfZJInIdodjaGRSlWj7Lk= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 250123-20, 1/23/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vmuige$1rove$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-CA Bytes: 5749 On 2025-01-23 6:14 PM, moviePig wrote: > On 1/23/2025 5:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >> On Jan 23, 2025 at 2:39:06 PM PST, "Rhino" >> <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 2025-01-23 4:11 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>> On Jan 23, 2025 at 12:57:36 PM PST, "Rhino" >>>> <no_offline_contact@example.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 2025-01-23 3:11 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>> I just learned something I never knew: >>>>>> Jimmy Stewart (the actor) was a soldier in WWII and rose from >>>>>> the rank of >>>>>> private to colonel during the war and retired in 1968 as a 2- >>>>>> star general. >>>>>> He’s only one of a handful of soldiers who have accomplished that >>>>>> dramatic a >>>>>> rise through the ranks of the Army. And he wasn’t just doing >>>>>> “celebrity >>>>>> duty” >>>>>> in the Army, either. During the war, he flew dozens of B-52 >>>>>> combat sorties >>>>>> over Nazi Germany. >>>>> I knew most of that but not that he had started as a private; for >>>>> some >>>>> reason, I thought pilots started higher up the food chain. I >>>>> don't think >>>>> he finally retired for the Air Force Reserve in 1968 when he >>>>> reached the >>>>> mandatory retirement age of 60. He was even on a flight during the >>>>> Vietnam War as an observer. >>>>> >>>>> You're slightly wrong about his final rank: he was a brigadier >>>>> general. >>>>> Or so says Wikipedia anyway. A brigadier general is a 1-star >>>>> general, >>>>> not a 2-star. But he did reach the highest rank of any actor in >>>>> American >>>>> military history. >>>> He was a brigadier when he retired but they promoted him to major >>>> general on >>>> his retirement date so the official record shows him at the higher >>>> rank >>>> (which >>>> also means a higher military pension). This is not uncommon for >>>> officers who >>>> retire in good standing. My own father retired at one rank higher >>>> than he >>>> was >>>> when he put in his papers. >>> Ah yes, I'd forgotten about that practice. >>> >>>>> Many other actors served in the world wars. Humphrey Bogart >>>>> served in >>>>> WWI in the Navy and a bit of shrapnel hit him in the face during an >>>>> enemy bombardment causing his speech to change slightly to what >>>>> we all >>>>> know from his films. However, Wikipedia says this account is >>>>> disputed >>>>> and several other incidents are cited as possible sources of the >>>>> scar on >>>>> his lip. >>>>> >>>>> Eddie Albert (Oliver from Green Acres) served in the Navy in WWII >>>>> and >>>>> earned a Bronze Star for actions in the Pacific. >>>>> >>>>> Clark Gable served on bombers over Europe during WWII as a gunner. >>>>> Hitler valued Gable above all other actors and offered a reward to >>>>> anyone who could bring him Gable unscathed if he happened to >>>>> crash or >>>>> jump from a plane during a mission. Apparently, Hitler was >>>>> fascinated by >>>>> Gable's EARS and wanted to study them closely. As I understand it, >>>>> Gable's ears raised some interesting questions about Hitler's racial >>>>> theories but I don't know any further details. >>>>> >>>>> This is only a very few of the actors who served in war. There >>>>> was a lot >>>>> of social pressure on all men, including actors, to serve in >>>>> WWII. A fewC >>>>> actors escaped military service when their studios deemed them too >>>>> valuable to risk and got exemptions for them but most served if they >>>>> were physically able. >>>> And of course Elvis was drafted and served two years in Germany. >>> Ditto for Johnny Cash, who was in the Air Force, also in Germany. >>> Jimi Hendrix served in the 101st Airborne during his military service, >>> although he was discharged early(?) because he was a lousy shot and was >>> not thought to have the makings of a good soldier. >> >> Can you imagine any of our current crop of celebrities going willingly >> to war >> to fight for the nation? There may be some but none leap readily to >> mind. The >> only ones I can think of are now too old to serve. > > I can imagine that increased cynicism has befallen most any broad swath > of society over recent decades. > > The "progressives" fanned the flames of that cynicism with everything they could muster. -- Rhino