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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: Jimmy Stewart
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 23:04:37 -0500
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On 1/23/2025 6:55 PM, Rhino wrote:
> On 2025-01-23 6:14 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 1/23/2025 5:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> On Jan 23, 2025 at 2:39:06 PM PST, "Rhino" 
>>> <no_offline_contact@example.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-23 4:11 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>   On Jan 23, 2025 at 12:57:36 PM PST, "Rhino" 
>>>>> <no_offline_contact@example.com>
>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>   On 2025-01-23 3:11 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>     I just learned something I never knew:
>>>>>>>     Jimmy Stewart (the actor) was a soldier in WWII and rose from 
>>>>>>> the rank of
>>>>>>>     private to colonel during the war and retired in 1968 as a 2- 
>>>>>>> star general.
>>>>>>>     He’s only one of a handful of soldiers who have accomplished 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> dramatic a
>>>>>>>     rise through the ranks of the Army. And he wasn’t just doing 
>>>>>>> “celebrity
>>>>>>>   duty”
>>>>>>>     in the Army, either. During the war, he flew dozens of B-52 
>>>>>>> combat sorties
>>>>>>>     over Nazi Germany.
>>>>>>   I knew most of that but not that he had started as a private; 
>>>>>> for some
>>>>>>   reason, I thought pilots started higher up the food chain. I 
>>>>>> don't think
>>>>>>   he finally retired for the Air Force Reserve in 1968 when he 
>>>>>> reached the
>>>>>>   mandatory retirement age of 60. He was even on a flight during the
>>>>>>   Vietnam War as an observer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   You're slightly wrong about his final rank: he was a brigadier 
>>>>>> general.
>>>>>>   Or so says Wikipedia anyway. A brigadier general is a 1-star 
>>>>>> general,
>>>>>>   not a 2-star. But he did reach the highest rank of any actor in 
>>>>>> American
>>>>>>   military history.
>>>>>   He was a brigadier when he retired but they promoted him to major 
>>>>> general on
>>>>>   his retirement date so the official record shows him at the 
>>>>> higher rank
>>>>> (which
>>>>>   also means a higher military pension). This is not uncommon for 
>>>>> officers who
>>>>>   retire in good standing. My own father retired at one rank higher 
>>>>> than he
>>>>> was
>>>>>   when he put in his papers.
>>>> Ah yes, I'd forgotten about that practice.
>>>>
>>>>>>   Many other actors served in the world wars. Humphrey Bogart 
>>>>>> served in
>>>>>>   WWI in the Navy and a bit of shrapnel hit him in the face during an
>>>>>>   enemy bombardment causing his speech to change slightly to what 
>>>>>> we all
>>>>>>   know from his films. However, Wikipedia says this account is 
>>>>>> disputed
>>>>>>   and several other incidents are cited as possible sources of the 
>>>>>> scar on
>>>>>>   his lip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Eddie Albert (Oliver from Green Acres) served in the Navy in 
>>>>>> WWII and
>>>>>>   earned a Bronze Star for actions in the Pacific.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Clark Gable served on bombers over Europe during WWII as a gunner.
>>>>>>   Hitler valued Gable above all other actors and offered a reward to
>>>>>>   anyone who could bring him Gable unscathed if he happened to 
>>>>>> crash or
>>>>>>   jump from a plane during a mission. Apparently, Hitler was 
>>>>>> fascinated by
>>>>>>   Gable's EARS and wanted to study them closely. As I understand it,
>>>>>>   Gable's ears raised some interesting questions about Hitler's 
>>>>>> racial
>>>>>>   theories but I don't know any further details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   This is only a very few of the actors who served in war. There 
>>>>>> was a lot
>>>>>>   of social pressure on all men, including actors, to serve in 
>>>>>> WWII. A fewC
>>>>>>   actors escaped military service when their studios deemed them too
>>>>>>   valuable to risk and got exemptions for them but most served if 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>   were physically able.
>>>>>   And of course Elvis was drafted and served two years in Germany.
>>>> Ditto for Johnny Cash, who was in the Air Force, also in Germany.
>>>> Jimi Hendrix served in the 101st Airborne during his military service,
>>>> although he was discharged early(?) because he was a lousy shot and was
>>>> not thought to have the makings of a good soldier.
>>>
>>> Can you imagine any of our current crop of celebrities going 
>>> willingly to war
>>> to fight for the nation? There may be some but none leap readily to 
>>> mind. The
>>> only ones I can think of are now too old to serve.
>>
>> I can imagine that increased cynicism has befallen most any broad 
>> swath of society over recent decades.
>>
>>
> The "progressives" fanned the flames of that cynicism with everything 
> they could muster.

One suspects there's little your "progressives" *aren't* to blame for.