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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics Subject: Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious Baubles? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 16:39:40 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: <vn1bse$2fn29$2@dont-email.me> References: <266e4dcf4bee1d0100c5716c04f2e786@www.novabbs.com> <679284FD.3ABB@ix.netcom.com> <67a111c1cd4ba39ca41fe660200ecadf@www.novabbs.com> <5e7fc5f52bd5693fabce0060ee8b91df@www.novabbs.com> <vmufi5$1r9fi$1@dont-email.me> <50d67245623f6116d399ab3a0a503fa7@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 01:39:42 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="635ba437aaf51caf1bc9969eec7ea59c"; logging-data="2612297"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/eyWFa4gB7ou9pOHDJjxbUQpjpVQCI8DY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:p8e4Gty58RQUSwgvARg3Y7p1Q44= In-Reply-To: <50d67245623f6116d399ab3a0a503fa7@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4200 On 1/24/2025 2:11 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:24:04 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> On 1/23/2025 2:20 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 21:47:25 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass >>>>>> baubles. >>>>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic >>>>>> attain >>>>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >>>>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error >>>>>> that a >>>>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities >>>>>> convincing >>>>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, >>>>>> such as >>>>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and >>>>>> thoughtlessly >>>>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >>>>>> slavish, and avoidable. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks >>>>> monopoly'. >>>>> >>>>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >>>>> >>>>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> The really amusing thing is that people are intellectual weaklings who >>>> couldn't reason themselves out of a paper bag, or they wouldn't accept >>>> curved space for a second. >>> Did you ever acknowledge my point that Einstein should have understood >>> that parallel lines would have to meet for space to curve? Isn't it >>> stupid as hell not to recognize that? If he had been an honest and >>> forthright person, he would have said we have to presume that parallel >>> lines meet to claim space is curved, and this is our derivation for the >>> doubling of the Newtonian deflection. Then, every reasonable person >>> would have balked at such an irrational assumption and recognized him as >>> a foolish fellow. >> >> Think of drawing two horizontal lines on a spheres surface. They will >> never intersect. > You presume space can be treated as a surface. That is a petitio > principii. You presume it's curved to conclude it's curved. It's not a > surface and its not curved. If it was curved a bit, then I can see how two parallel lines might intersect at a point at infinity, so to speak, in a strange sense. It's strange to me. When I plot field individual lines in one of my experimental fields, they never intersect even though they twist and turn through the field...