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From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 11:39:56 +0000
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On 25/01/2025 07:36, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 23/01/2025 20:22, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> Mine does need print software to interpret the Gcode and generate
>>> build files that the printer itself can understand. But it's pretty
>>> ancient as home 3D printers go (an original Makerbot Cupcake).
>>>
>> Well mine (creality K1) seems to understand the GCODE directly, but the
>> slicer 'knows' about the machine, its commands and the plastic
>> materials, so it pretty much does all of that.
> 
> Maybe. You could check the output and see - Gcode is text based,
> eg. this tiny snippet from a print I didn't get around to doing today:
> 
> G1 X-26.981 Y-1.748 Z3.36 F6240.0
> M101
> G1 X-20.752 Y-1.748 Z3.36 F3970.1225
> G1 X-20.752 Y1.748 Z3.36 F3978.0
> G1 X-27.748 Y1.748 Z3.36 F3844.7845
> G1 X-27.748 Y-1.748 Z3.36 F3978.0
> G1 X-27.286 Y-1.748 Z3.36 F3978.0
> G1 X-26.981 Y-1.748 Z3.36 F3978.0
> M103
> 
> G codes are posisitioning, M codes turn things on/off (the
> extruder in this case). You can write it yourself like to use the
> build platform as an agitater for etching PCBs in a tub on top,
> which I tried but it turns out I enjoy doing the agitation manaully
> more anyway (and less risk of splashing etchant on my 3D printer,
> though it's mostly wood).
> 
> Slicers do need some machine-specific info even just to make the
> Gcode. Hence I can't use the new ones with mine. I did look into
> adding/hacking a driver (or whatever they call it) in Slic3r for
> the Cupcake, but it's fixing something that ain't broke and I don't
> like to touch C++ code if I can avoid it.
> 
>> I think modern printers are very much better than they used to be.Its
>> now out of 'unstable' and more into 'testing' with their onboard code
> 
> Well I've learnt the bugs pretty well by now and they're just like
> old friends. Plus it's nice with the Cupcake that everything's open
> source so it's been easy for me to modify the electronics a bit
> (and someone so inclined could even fiddle at those bugs in the
> firmware).
> 

TBH I just wanted the minimal way to print my designs. I have to learn 
more than I would have liked to do that.

As with Linux desktops, its not my hobby per se, its a tool for me to 
use in my hobbies.
I think I got the balance between hackability and built-in excellence 
about right with the printer I ended up with.

-- 
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over 
the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that 
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

  Frédéric Bastiat