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On 25/01/2025 10:32, D wrote:
> Apart from a few years in the UK, europe was never about the free world. 
> Europe has always been about socialism, high taxes, and 
> authoritarianism. I suspect that this is due to its history with kings 
> n' stuff.
> 
You should wiki read 'the iron law of Oligarchy'

There are certain political arrangements that are stable, or not, 
depending on the nature of the country.
E.g, Russia is stable with an Mafia style oligarchy because the riches 
belong to whoever can hold ownership of the oilfields.
The UK was stable with a democracy because of the massive amount of 
wealth tied up in the 'bourgeoisie'  - small companies that made things, 
bug companies that traded things and so on. Ownership of land per se 
ceased to mean wealth and power around 1800. The nivels of Jame Austen 
coincidentally document that with the 'upper classes' consisting of 
landowners with ivome from tenant framers, but alos people running sugar 
plantations in the West Indies, and of course Naval captains whose 
wealth came from the legalised piracy that was war at sea then.

Later on the mill owners in the North became immensely rich as well. 
Wealth is political power, which is why the Socialists want to remove it 
from you.

The greatest political power we still have is defined by how we use our 
credit cards. Cf Elon Musk or Bill Gates



> The small pockets of liberty are, some parts of eastern europe (fiscal 
> liberty), switzerland, monaco, andorra, the channel islands, 
> liechtenstein. I think that's about it. Oh, if you dive below the first 
> level of legal paragraphs you could add cyprus and malta to the list as 
> well.

I think it is all changing. The old 19th century empire building 
mentality of the EU and its minions, and Russia, is not supported by 
rather too many people who are rather too well informed via the internet.

I think a more sane arrangement will be NATO style voluntary 
associations of smaller entities, into trade agreements, defence 
agreements, but not agreements that pass their sovereignty to a 
centralised anti-democratic bureaucracy.



-- 
“It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of 
intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on 
intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is 
futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into, 
we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every 
criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a 
power-directed system of thought.”
Sir Roger Scruton