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Subject: Re: ICE Is On The Move
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 11:35:51 -0500
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On 1/24/2025 11:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Jan 24, 2025 at 2:26:00 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> 
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> Jan 24, 2025 at 1:13:32 PM PST, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> These are the people Joe Biden and Kammie and all the sanctuary politicians
>>>>> want in this country for some fucked up incomprehensible reason.
>>
>>>>> Well, Trump removed ICE's muzzle and they're tracking these shitbags
>>>>> down and booting them out of America.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1882527846054100992/vid/avc1/1280x720/-WKAqLk34_BT3U17.mp4?tag=16
>>
>>>> No, you can't defend Trump's new policies. They just showed up at a
>>>> Chicago elementary school, so clearly there is no prioritization for
>>
>>>>
>>>> https://blockclubchicago.org/2025/01/24/ice-agents-denied-entry-at-cps-school-in-back-of-the-yards/
>>
>>>> If Trump had wanted to make a point about lack of state and local
>>>> cooperation, they had days to obtain federal arrest warrants for their
>>>> high priority list of dangerous men to deport. That forces local
>>>> cooperation.
>>
>>> "Chicago Public Schools said it would not allow ICE agents access to schools
>>> and facilities "unless they produce a criminal judicial warrant signed by a
>>> federal judge". School officials won't allow ICE agents access based on
>>> administrative warrants, ICE detainers "or other document issued by an agency
>>> enforcing civil immigration law," officials said.
>>
>>> They don't get to make that call. Administrative warrants are warrants. They
>>> have force of law. If Chicago doesn't like that, they can try to get Congress
>>> to change the law, but until then, they don't have the authority to refuse to
>>> comply. If they try, they can be arrested for obstruction.
>>
>> First of all, we don't know what paperwork was presented, if any. My
>> guess is they just wanted to question people without targeting specific
>> aliens for removal.
> 
> Since we currently have control of Congress, they should pass a federal law
> either requiring state and local cops to honor ICE detainers or defining it as
> obstruction not to. No more of these local cities deciding whether they will
> or will not honor valid detainers. Make it a federal crime to refuse to do it,
> then lock up a few blue mayors or police chiefs and see how they like the
> inside of the jailhouse.

Might be hard to legislate away a natural reluctance to administer harm.