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From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
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Subject: Re: ICE Is On The Move
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 22:50:17 -0000 (UTC)
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On Jan 25, 2025 at 2:12:57 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> Jan 25, 2025 at 12:24:36 PM PST, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> Jan 25, 2025 at 10:32:33 AM PST, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> Since we currently have control of Congress, they should pass a federal
>>>>>> law either requiring state and local cops to honor ICE detainers
>>>>>> or defining it as obstruction not to. No more of these local cities
>>>>>> deciding whether they will or will not honor valid detainers. Make it
>>>>>> a federal crime to refuse to do it, then lock up a few blue mayors or
>>>>>> police chiefs and see how they like the inside of the jailhouse.
> 
>>>>> Congress doesn't have the power to criminalize this per federalism.
> 
>>>> (1) That ship sailed long ago. Of all the intrusions on federalism we've had
>>>> to endure (and continue to have to endure) this would be extremely minor.
> 
>>> I don't know about you, but I'd like to regain federalism.
> 
>>>> (2) That's why making it an obstruction offense would be the way to go.
> 
>>> What are you going to do, charge the legislature with the crime? Some
>>> states have laws against this.
> 
>> No, the mayor or the police chief who orders their cops to defy the detainer
>> requiring them to hand over the criminal illegal alien they have in their
>> jail.
> 
> Without first finding these state and local laws unconstitutional?

They don't have to be found unconstitutional. Federal law can merely define
defying a detainer as an obstruction of federal immigration law.