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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,uk.telecom.mobile,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:25:54 +1300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <vn8tl2$18bsa$1@dont-email.me> References: <8u8k6lx5s2.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 22:25:55 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9a6fe3799a1acbdf9ad9ac733273abb6"; logging-data="1322890"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+WTudvGQkk94KyX171IWi9XDlN9orgy2E=" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:i5juTEv1NPthLlP9cmkpqM7jFk0= Bytes: 2698 On 2025-01-27 11:57:28 +0000, Carlos E.R. said: > On 2025-01-27 02:39, Alan wrote: >> On 2025-01-25 18:44, Isaac Montara wrote: >>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 16:59:40 -0800, Alan wrote: >>> >>>>> Thank your lucky stars that the lightning cable is no longer allowed. >>>> >>>> Why? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> That kind of non-standard "innovation" belongs in the garbage heap. >>>> >>>> Why? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Besides, Apple hasn't innovated a single iPhone thing since Jobs died. >>>>> >>>>> Well, Apple removed a few things, if you want to call that innovation. >>>> >>>> I notice nothing you say address the substance of what I wrote. >>> >>> Apple making the cable different from all other cables just so that Apple >>> can sell more lightning cables for their own profit, isn't innovation. >> >> At the time Apple did it, there was no standard. >> >> Apple invented a device and invented the necessary connection standards >> to suite. > > Huh, no. It would be a standard if many manufacturers followed it. None did. It still has a set of "standards", in the sense of the rules Apple defined as to what it can and cannot do, how it should be made, etc. Manufacturers who didn't follow those rules couldn't actually call it by that name. It just didn't become a "standard" in the sense of being a feature installed on every device made - mainly due to the licensing cost manufacturers had to pay Apple. Unlike, for example, the Windows PC where there was no real set of standards, so it was pretty much a free for all with manufacturers using all sorts of differing parts. It's one of the causes of the nightmare for the Windows OS functionality.