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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: sobriquet <dohduhdah@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: math, is it just physics? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 12:45:59 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: <vnd4do$2c2so$1@dont-email.me> References: <vnbg90$200p5$1@dont-email.me> <vncq1f$29v5v$2@dont-email.me> <ed39f7f86288385d55f75d99082d4fe54f766092@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 12:46:00 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="012d562041498ae56df61350b4b1d8e1"; logging-data="2493336"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19HEtcIR17TomeQzfGk8QnyEfna93DLvzc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:qv7vzYJ5nq95nkt7KynfKB79oUg= In-Reply-To: <ed39f7f86288385d55f75d99082d4fe54f766092@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: nl, en-US Bytes: 2140 Op 29/01/2025 om 11:46 schreef joes: > Am Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:48:47 +0100 schrieb WM: >> On 28.01.2025 21:56, sobriquet wrote: >>> >>> So in a way one could claim that concepts like integers and their >>> properties and relationships can be more or less empirically observed >>> in the behavior and properties of things like elementary particles such >>> as electrons or fields. >> Or bricks, marbles, people etc. The natural numbers have been abstracted >> from reality. The laws like "the existence of n implies the existence of >> n+1" were so evident, that no axioms appeared necessary before Dedekind, >> Peano, Schmidt etc. Only Cantor's assumption of an actual set with |ℕ| >> being a fixed quantity greater than all numbers is not abstracted from >> reality. > Oh PLEASE show me something physically infinite. > How about space? Or would you claim that if we emit photons in opposite directions on a straight line/trajectory, they would eventually meet up, provided they don't run into anything else?