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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: google apps Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 11:58:48 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 140 Message-ID: <vngllo$335nh$17@dont-email.me> References: <xn0p1f4avcatjgz00i@reader443.eternal-september.org> <vngkcl$7gm$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 20:58:49 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="947cd538ab78b325ea0017ac6d5692b0"; logging-data="3249905"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/IQFVQO/jhEvWyWMmg59zh8HHwppVpXhs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:tNS6QJH7mTwLxhX0EC9+gap7pG4= In-Reply-To: <vngkcl$7gm$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> Content-Language: en-CA Bytes: 7293 On 2025-01-30 11:36, Marion wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 18:04:17 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote : > > >> Just out of curiosity, how many Google apps do you have installed >> on your iPhone? > > My iPhone is an older model sans SIM card, so I'll say what's on > some of my iPads, particularly what came, by default, on my 10th > generation iPad, which does NOT have an Apple ID on it, so > everything on it is from Apple. How is the presence of a SIM card relevant to this discussion? > > All I found by typing "Google" into the "App Library" search box > was: Google Voice > > Since I learn by helping others, I picked up my older iPads, where > the oldest that is still working is my test vehicle for how many > tens of thousands of times Apple is asking me to log into their > mainframes. Or you picked an older iPad because you knew the result would be different on your iPhone. > > Every single day, all day, Apple incessantly nags me to log into > their mainframe tracking servers - as an iOS device is a dumb > terminal after all. This is false. > > For that iOS 16.7.10 iPad (which is as up-to-date as Apple will > allow), every day Apple nags me in fundamental ways the Apple trolls > don't know. Apple ID Verification = Enter the password for > x@iCloud.com in Settings I know that you will be asked to log in. I also know that iOS devices will continue to work properly (with some obvious exceptions) regardless of whether you do so or not. > > This is in addition to Apple constantly nagging me to: Turn on Two- > Factor Authentication Finish Setting Up Your iPad {Touch ID} Finish > Setting Up Your iPad {Passcode} The reason the Apple trolls know > nothing about Apple products is it would never occur to them to > think on their own and NOT log into Apple's servers. And what would be the harm of logging in? > > Anyway, I went to the App Store on that older iPad to search for > "Google", and it said the following apps' status was (in the order > presented to me) > > Google = Search with AI, Images & T... (this displayed twice) > {UPDATE} Google Chrome = {UPDATE} Gmail = {iCloud} Google Docs = > {GET} Google Drive = {GET} Google Maps = {OPEN} Google Sheets = > {GET} Google Slides = {GET} Google Meet = {UPDATE} Google > Calendar: Get... = {UPDATE} Google Photos: Backup &... = {GET} > YouTube: Watch, Listen... {UPDATE} Google Earth = {UPDATE} Google > Translate = {GET} Google Classroom = {GET} Google Keep - Notes > and... = {GET} Google Chat = {GET} Google Bundle = {VIEW} Google > Gemini = {GET} (turned out to be 3rd-party) Forms for Google Docs = > {GET} Google News = {GET} Google Authenticator = {GET} Google Home = > {GET} Google One = {GET} Google Assistant = {GET} Google Tasks: Get > Things... = {GET} Google Play Books & Audi... = {GET} Google > Analytics = {GET} Google Voice = {UPDATE} Google Arts & Culture = > {GET} GBoard - The Google Key... = {GET} (turned out to be 3rd- > party) Contacts Sync: Google &... = {GET} (turned out to be 3rd- > party) Forms for Google Forms = {GET} Google TV: Watch Movies... = > {GET} Google Admin = {GET} Google Family Link = {GET} Google Ads = > {GET} Google Fit: Activity Tracker = {GET} Google Cloud = {GET} > Google Fi Wireless = {GET} Google Opinion Rewards = {GET} ? (turned > out to be 3rd-party) gTasks for Google Tasks = {GET} YouTube TV = > {GET} GFiber: The Google Fiber... = {GET} (turned out to be 3rd- > party) Template for Google Docs = {GET} (turned out to be 3rd-party) > Gome: remote for Google... = {GET} Wear OS by Google = {GET} Google > Device Policy = {GET} THIRD PARTY: Blogger for Google Blogs = {GET} > Lens: Translate & Image S... = {GET} Google Cardboard = {GET} > > Some of those may not be from Google, but, unlike the Apple trolls > who don't spend any time to reply to anyone, I checked the obvious > ones. > > In addition to those that the App Store found, separate searches > found these iOS apps which didn't show up in my App Store search for > "Google". > > PhotoScan by Google Photos: This app helps you scan and digitize > old photos. Google Lens: The standalone Google Lens app is also > available in addition to the Lens app that the App Store found in > my search above on the iPad. YouTube Studio: This is for YouTube > creators to manage their channels. Google Play Games: This is > Google's app for gaming on mobile, including achievements and > leaderboards. Google Wifi: This app helps you manage your Google > Wifi network. Looker Mobile: Used for accessing and analyzing data > with Looker (which is a business intelligence platform). Google Play > Services: This is a background app that helps other Google apps > function properly. And then there are these apps halfway in between > iOS & Android it seems: Google Play Console: This is for developers > to manage their apps on the Google Play Store. Android Switch: This > helps you transfer data from an Android phone to an iPhone. > > In summary, to answer the OP's original question with accuracy, here > are the Google apps which I have on my older iPad that I use to test > how long it takes before Apple bricks it simply for not logging into > Apple's mothership mainframe tracking servers (which most people > don't know about). Apple doesn't brick iOS devices just because you don't log in. > > Google = Search with AI, Images & T... (this displayed twice) > {UPDATE} Google Chrome = {UPDATE} Gmail = {iCloud} Google Maps = > {OPEN} Google Meet = {UPDATE} Google Calendar: Get... = {UPDATE} > YouTube: Watch, Listen... {UPDATE} Google Earth = {UPDATE} Google > Bundle = {VIEW} "Gmail" does not EQUAL "{iCloud}"... ....and don't you know how to properly format lists such as you've just presented? > > Note that only Google Maps is up to date (for some strange reason). You updated it. > I would think this iOS list would be similar for Mac apps, is it > not? "would it not?". And what is that sentence even supposed to mean? <meaningless chest-thumping snipped>