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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Supreme Court grants review Martin v. United States wrongful FBI SWAT raid Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 17:03:39 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 78 Message-ID: <vnlk5b$6l2g$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2025 18:03:40 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="63ae109f4741db36b1b54791467f681d"; logging-data="218192"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+0M9GRwwyHhNG4dRg+4Vnzn4o2oLBci1Q=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:csp8Cy8Xzyf1tmnCOOauwUvpzCs= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Bytes: 4542 Utterly idiotic ruling from 11th Circuit to be argued before Supreme Court this term, likely in April. "Idiotic" is my word. The appeal was suggested because of circuit split. However, the federal government (is there a solicitor general at the moment?) opposed review, as the opinion doesn't affect the outcome of the case. The government's reasoning makes no sense to me. When the government refuses to respond to a case granted review, the Supreme Court appoints an attorney, in this case, a former Clarence Thomas law clerk who gets to argue before the Court for the first time. A family in suburban Atlanta whose home was raided by FBI SWAT in 2015 in error was barred from suing for false imprisonment and assault and battery and other torts in state law (although the suit had to be filed in federal court). We all learned in elementary school that the Eleventh Amendment bars specific suits against the federal government but there is no sovereign immumity in the US Constitution as there is in state constitutions. It's from common law through certain enactments of common law principles into federal law going back to the first Congress. The present federal law is the Tort Claims Act of 1946. Sovereign immumity gives a plaintiff permission to sue the federal government umder limited circumstances. (Can you imagine in a business lawsuit that the party alleged to have committed the tort must give permission to be sued?) The circumstances, in part, are that a business might be required to defend itself with a similar set of facts under state law. But certain claims are barred, according to one of the articles: The law carves out an exception to that rule, however, for state-law claims that stem from a government officials performance of a discretionary duty or function. FBI SWAT raided the wrong house. Both the house number and street were different. Apparently the city was correct. (Somebody commented that he was dismayed that ability to verify that one is at the house named on the warrant isn't a prerequisite for leading a raid.) The parties were handcuffed and guns were pointed at them. Illegal trespass and plenty of property damage before FBI would acknowledge its mistake. One of the raiders said they'd make repairs but that never happened. At district court the claim didn't survive the motion to dismiss. 11th Circuit (I assume it was a three-judge panel) upheld the trial court. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit upheld the district courts dismissal of Martin and Cliatts claims. The family then came to the Supreme Court, which agreed on Monday to decide whether their claims under the FTCA are barred under the Constitutions supremacy clause, on the theory that decisions like the one at issue by the FBI agents in this case can have a connection to advancing federal policy and therefore takes precedence over state law, and to weigh in on the application of the discretionary function exception. It's a supremacy clause issue because even a bad act of the federal government advances policy? It's an Institute for Justice case. Here's SCOTUSBLOG about the friend of the court brief to be filed and argued https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/01/outside-attorneys-appointed-to-argue-in-two-cases/ and about the case itself https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/01/justices-take-up-case-on-right-to-sue-over-mistaken-swat-raid/ Steve Lehto video as he's a big promoter of Institute of Justice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfg3O3cK0lw It's the Roberts court, so it's not likely that there will be a broad-based decision even if they reverse the dismissal.