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From: Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Gaming Laptops
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 19:22:49 -0500
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On Sat, 2/1/2025 7:58 AM, vallor wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 12:28:47 -0600, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote
> in <fdjiojt0fj9ft4plm2eu47itkdsi21mdcl@4ax.com>:
> 
>> Paul wrote:
>>
>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Of course.  Overall, a challenge with the DIY topic is differences in
>>>> motivation:
>>>> is the DIY because money's tight?  Or is the motivation because
>>>> tinkering with hardware is an entertaining hobby/pastime?
>>>> Both motivations can & do exist, and can get conflated in discussions.
>>>
>>> The motivation, is we don't want to buy shit.
>>>
>>> Do I want a Dell with a four phase VCore, when I can have a twenty four
>>> phase VCore on an expensive motherboard ?
>>>
>>> Do I want a 230W power supply on a Dell, when I can pick up an 850W
>>> power supply at Best Buy ?
>>> Now, I can plug in an RTX4090 when I want to.
>>> On the Dell, that's... impossible (even if you went out and bought the
>>> 850W supply, it probably would not fit in the small Dell case, neither
>>> would the Dell cooling system be adequate for the thermal load and there
>>> wouldn't even be a mounting location for a fan to be added).
>>
>> Yeah the non-standard components in Dells and HPs are a real turn-off,
>> for those of us who are brave enough to open our PC cases.
>>
>>> When you do a build, you control everything, and no screwing around or
>>> taking shortcuts.
>>
>> I think us DIY guys tend to overspend and overbuild our systems.  So we
>> don't save any money, but they are better-built.
>>
>>> Well, what the salesman didn't tell the gaming lady,
>>> is that the owner will beat the piss out of the laptop and it will be
>>> knackered after only four years. While you are having a gaming
>>> experience, it won't last.
>>
>> Gaming laptops are the worst.  Hot running, loud, expensive, fragile.
> 
> There are exceptions to every rule.  In that regard: ASUS tufbooks
> are tough.
> 
> After updating it to Linux Mint 22.1, and while looking at the output
> of lspci(8), discovered this:
> 
> 0000:00:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 12th Gen Core Processor 
> Gaussian & Neural Accelerator (rev 02)
> 
> There's an out-of-tree driver Linux driver for it, and apparently Intel
> is working to get it into the Linux kernel.
> 
> Having said that, can't imagine why I'd use it.  (I guess perhaps Windows
> Copilot might use it, but I'll defer to others regarding whether or not
> that is the case.)
> 

Your guess is as good as any.

https://edc.intel.com/content/www/us/en/design/ipla/software-development-platforms/client/platforms/alder-lake-desktop/12th-generation-intel-core-processors-datasheet-volume-1-of-2/003/intel-gmm-and-neural-network-accelerator/

Even the person making a URL for the article, was running out of letters.

In a strange twist of fate, it's being used as a Direct Render Manager "thingy".
No resource goes wasted, I would guess.

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-GNA-To-DRM-Driver

   Paul