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Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Isaak <specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Paradoxes Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 09:23:08 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vno9ls$pjp2$1@dont-email.me> References: <vmqoq0$10mf5$2@dont-email.me> <vmv0pd$1u4nk$1@dont-email.me> <vmv6km$22ou8$2@dont-email.me> <3ne8pj575iefq71id6p87uposrvsc3124s@4ax.com> <vn2inq$2ph5q$1@dont-email.me> <jebapj5i6aku8rtqsscka5rriplua5itba@4ax.com> <vn48vk$38qmu$1@dont-email.me> <1abbpj17tuh66eujbpl1m6dldnuf7n2vun@4ax.com> <vn4f6v$3edug$1@dont-email.me> <bcnbpjh50r4v9v8igrfkq298etk7gs0e8n@4ax.com> <vn5584$3mhc6$1@dont-email.me> <k8pcpj509sre1veqqu9q9b7iu8mrcmcp4n@4ax.com> <vn635o$1q7s$4@dont-email.me> <cf3epjhhf91ihq6i5t7mnvi5bm399146bg@4ax.com> <vn75jq$inai$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="88571"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:LsnW4aqMxe/8spBvMO272G3kUQo= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 99463229872; Mon, 03 Feb 2025 00:03:37 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31887229786 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Mon, 03 Feb 2025 00:03:35 -0500 (EST) by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTPS id 51353UgC1570263 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 3 Feb 2025 06:03:31 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74C456061F for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Mon, 3 Feb 2025 05:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/74C456061F; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=curioustaxon.omy.net id 31C72DC01F6; Mon, 3 Feb 2025 06:46:36 +0100 (CET) id 7EA1CDC01E8; Mon, 3 Feb 2025 07:01:04 +0100 (CET) id E6E3ADC01F8; Sun, 2 Feb 2025 18:23:09 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2025 18:23:09 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/zkMfrO/j5sqf+yjn/rTGEjPpDmHy/cpI= In-Reply-To: <vn75jq$inai$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3851 On 1/26/25 9:29 PM, MarkE wrote: > [...] > An atheistic worldview may preference naturalistic options, and a > theistic worldview may preference the God option. We may give more > weight and consideration to a particular explanation based, in part, on > our belief. > > Moreover, science itself can tell us nothing about this postulated > agent. That is the task of other epistemological domains (philosophy, > theology, personal experience, etc). Nevertheless, science can provide > an evidential pointer to God as a possible explanation. > > What do you think? If I believed in the god you believe in, I would be an atheist. -- Mark Isaak "Wisdom begins when you discover the difference between 'That doesn't make sense' and 'I don't understand.'" - Mary Doria Russell