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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Most significant advance in bike technology for speed? Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 08:21:58 -0600 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 49 Message-ID: <vnqje5$19nqb$4@dont-email.me> References: <vn0pv2$2cdge$1@dont-email.me> <3l98pj1sdf0rg51lv03l2vgf36guvquj4s@4ax.com> <vn1joj$2gutd$2@dont-email.me> <vn8ue5$189p2$3@dont-email.me> <hv3gpj9djv00laugm2guoun789toku68gu@4ax.com> <vn990o$1blp1$1@dont-email.me> <p7chpj11l2gs521785lr9ggqf2jhgmh4n8@4ax.com> <ovlmpjd4gefae134coomgqug9r3polgir3@4ax.com> <vnipv1$3ib0p$1@dont-email.me> <b23rpj1fvm0ip2r855jk1el9475vffascq@4ax.com> <vnl9ar$48gg$2@dont-email.me> <vnoare$pqqv$1@dont-email.me> <54h0qjpr6cplhtbpcncn57rarfe06mlape@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 15:21:58 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4a6c2bae88417e52c4901dffa2456bd1"; logging-data="1367883"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19+Nx+FQWTEhuI0Qbmkn6VG" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:B4qTH3BSkAYdpVeenddWeKCJVTQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <54h0qjpr6cplhtbpcncn57rarfe06mlape@4ax.com> On 2/2/2025 10:32 PM, John B. wrote: > On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 12:43:08 -0500, Frank Krygowski > <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2/1/2025 8:58 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>> >>> People do make individual decisions based on their individual >>> evaluations of their individual circumstances, abilities etc. by their >>> own individual criteria. And then they live or die by those decisions. >>> >>> https://cwbchicago.com/2025/01/garbage-collector-shoots-2-armed-robbers- >>> outside-elementary-school-killing-1.html >>> >>> In my personal opinion it is not morally superior do die while being >>> robbed. YMMV. >> >> A parallel statement that might be made by other people about spiders, >> snakes, ghosts, enclosed spaces, and dozens of other phobias. Requiring >> a gun to ride on a quiet bike path where young mothers push kids in >> strollers is paranoid. And if I lived somewhere where I needed a gun to >> fend off armed robbers, I'd move. > > > Well... Ohio is only 14 from the top of the list in Robbery Rate > https://www.statista.com/statistics/232564/robbery-rate-in-the-us-by-state/ > > But more perhaps more interesting is how do you know that you " needed > a gun to fend off armed robbers"? > > Until you actually do need it? On one hand, Poland OH is largely bereft of violent crime: https://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Poland-Ohio.html (compare to nearby Youngstown in 1st chart) On the other, you don't know what you don't know, and careful methodical analysis is not part of a successful defense when events occur within moments. One is either prepared or in Second Place. Action video this morning: https://nypost.com/2025/02/02/world-news/moment-78-year-old-fatally-shoots-teenager-trying-to-rob-him-in-argentina/ -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971