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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 17:07:37 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 39 Message-ID: <vnqm3p$1apip$1@dont-email.me> References: <vnh0sq$35mcm$1@dont-email.me> <vni4ta$3ek8m$1@dont-email.me> <vnikre$3hb19$1@dont-email.me> <vnkov9$1971$1@dont-email.me> <vnl9vj$4f8i$1@dont-email.me> <vnndqs$kef3$1@dont-email.me> <vnpd96$vl84$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 16:07:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="10035dde07594b3873789b646ea8c592"; logging-data="1402457"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+vuc78EPibRlGtph5Cqg3H" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:pdZGrWAJ9t/gXeKugsUkh/eFP34= Bytes: 2547 On 2025-02-03 03:30:46 +0000, olcott said: > On 2/2/2025 3:27 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2025-02-01 14:09:54 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> On 2/1/2025 3:19 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2025-01-31 13:57:02 +0000, olcott said: >>>> >>>>> On 1/31/2025 3:24 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-01-30 23:10:18 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Within the entire body of analytical truth any expression of language >>>>>>> that has no sequence of formalized semantic deductive inference steps >>>>>>> from the formalized semantic foundational truths of this system are >>>>>>> simply untrue in this system. (Isomorphic to provable from axioms). >>>>>> >>>>>> If there is a misconception then you have misconceived something. It is well >>>>>> known that it is possible to construct a formal theory where some formulas >>>>>> are neither provble nor disprovable. >>>>> >>>>> This is well known. >>>> >>>> And well undeerstood. The claim on the subject line is false. >>> >>> a fact or piece of information that shows that something >>> exists or is true: >>> https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/proof >> >> We require that terms of art are used with their term-of-art meaning and > > The fundamental base meaning of Truth[0] itself remains the same > no matter what idiomatic meanings say. Irrelevant as the subject line does not mention truth. Therefore, no need to revise my initial comment. -- Mikko