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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: Most significant advance in bike technology for speed?
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 09:12:56 -0600
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On 2/3/2025 8:54 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 2/3/2025 9:21 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 2/2/2025 10:32 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 12:43:08 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>> <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/1/2025 8:58 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> People do make individual decisions based on their 
>>>>> individual
>>>>> evaluations of their individual circumstances, 
>>>>> abilities etc. by their
>>>>> own individual criteria.  And then they live or die by 
>>>>> those decisions.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwbchicago.com/2025/01/garbage-collector- 
>>>>> shoots-2-armed- robbers-
>>>>> outside-elementary-school-killing-1.html
>>>>>
>>>>> In my personal opinion it is not morally superior do 
>>>>> die while being
>>>>> robbed. YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> A parallel statement that might be made by other people 
>>>> about spiders,
>>>> snakes, ghosts, enclosed spaces, and dozens of other 
>>>> phobias. Requiring
>>>> a gun to ride on a quiet bike path where young mothers 
>>>> push kids in
>>>> strollers is paranoid. And if I lived somewhere where I 
>>>> needed a gun to
>>>> fend off armed robbers, I'd move.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well... Ohio is only 14 from the top of the list in 
>>> Robbery Rate
>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/232564/robbery-rate- 
>>> in-the-us-by- state/
>>>
>>> But more perhaps more interesting is how do you know that 
>>> you " needed
>>> a gun to fend off armed robbers"?
>>>
>>> Until you actually do need it?
>>
>> On one hand, Poland OH is largely bereft of violent crime:
>>
>> https://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Poland-Ohio.html
>> (compare to nearby Youngstown in 1st chart)
> 
> Youngstown has much more crime than Poland. So does 
> Philadelphia, Cleveland, DC, LA, Atlanta, Oklahoma City, etc 
> etc etc
> 
> But I've ridden in all of them, always unarmed. I've ridden 
> in most neighborhoods in Youngstown. The worst crime I ever 
> encountered was to have a cyclometer swiped, once in Poland 
> Township, once in Ireland.
> 
> After 70+ years of such experiences, am I really supposed to 
> pretend "This could be the day I'll have to blow somebody 
> away to save my life"?
> 
> No. At some point, repeatedly fearing something that has 
> never happened crosses over into phobia.
> 

Yes, small but not zero.
p.s. nice snip.

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971