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From: Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
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Subject: [meta] Kate editor experience (was Re: Search/Replace capabilities of
 KATE 22.12.3)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 18:58:10 +0100
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Hi Richard,

I see your post "Confused first time Kate user", 6 months ago.
Another one "Understanding the Kate documentation", soon after.
Then a query post "An active Kate user group?", 2 months ago.

These questions on that time scale coupled with the observation
that you obviously haven't got (if at all) any useful feedback
raises some basic questions whether there's something suboptimal
in your approach to solve some task with that editor.

It appears that Kate's concepts are not clear (to you at least),
there's also no sufficient (clear) documentation provided, and
that there's also no active user group (with experienced users)
to help you.

Someone might have suggested Kate to you? (Have you asked these
people to help you?)

Maybe it's time to reconsider some early decision you made (with
the choice of that editor)! - Have you considered to use another
editor, one that is - likely for reasons! - (more) widely used?

On 03.02.2025 17:43, Richard Owlett wrote:
> [...]
> 
> I am new to Kate, though I've been exposed to a wide variety of editors
> since the 60's (impressed by co-workers use of TECO in the 70's).

(I note that you are still "new to Kate" after 6 months.)

> 
> I'm reformatting several chapters of a HTML formatted KJV Bible to be a
> pleasant reading experience for visually impaired seniors.

Given the huge amount of bible text your decision to _manually_
edit its HTML source is noteworthy. Personally I'd automate such
tasks with some (common) scripting language instead of using an
editor's scripting or macro facilities. (For large texts that's
not only faster but also more reliable, with reproducible results
and the possibility to adapt the process until the results are
perfect.)

> 
> Kate's suitability has been demonstrated by using the GUI to manually
> edit individual chapters.

Who demonstrated that? - Can you ask that source for help?

Mind that editing text (HTML or else) is what all text editors
have been created for to do. (There's some more common editors
that likely even have a lot more power than Kate.) - You will
certainly find more help if you use any of these text editors.

> I wish to write macros using ERE's[1] to make
> my project feasible.

(You can use EREs also in an automated scripting environment.)

> 
> I paused a few months ago due to difficulties. A recent WEB search
> turned up a discussion of a similar problem/solution[2].
> It referenced Kate 23.04 .
> 
> Questions:
>   1. Does that discussion apply to Kate 22.12.3?

If you have a question that's raised (also) in StackOverflow
then it's best you ask this question in that discussion group,
given that it's even a similar problem.

>   2. Is there documentation (preferably a tutorial) for this?
>      [I wish to use common terminology when asking further questions.]

See above.


Really and well meant; reconsider your approach. - Good luck!

Janis

> 
> TIA
> 
> [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/sed/manual/html_node/ERE-syntax.html
> [2]
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23157001/how-to-replace-kate-regular-expression