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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: OT: "Free speech" becomes a verb & noun...
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 11:45:23 -0500
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On 2/5/2025 9:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2025 at 4:14:07 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2/5/2025 6:32 PM, Pluted Pup wrote:
>>>   On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 20:37:20 -0800, moviePig wrote:
>>>   
>>>>
>>>>   "Trump administration to cancel student visas of pro-Palestinian protesters"
>>>   
>>>   Egregious, but no where is that quote in the article you cited:
>>>   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-cancel-student-visas-all-hamas-sympathizers-white-house-2025-01-29/
>>>   
>>>   That article appears to be about whether Trump wants to
>>>   militarily invade Palestine to expel the people from Gaza.
>>
>> Interesting.  Looks like Reuters may have retracted (incompetently) the
>> original article, which was headlined as I quoted.  The new emphasis
>> would now appear to be on "pro-Hamas" rather than "pro-Palestinian".
>> Regardless, it still smacks of curtailment of free speech.
> 
> So even when they clarify that they're only going after those resident aliens
> who support a terrorist organization, you're still worried about their free
> speech rights.

I'm *always* worried about free-speech rights, as well as about a 
president who knows no better than to fuck with them, even distantly.


>> (I.e., one could support *some* of Hamas's stated goals without bombing Tel
>> Aviv.)
> 
> And one could support those goals without expressing support for Hamas but
> they choose to do the latter.

Well, you may have a point.  E.g., although the swastika has many 
original meanings, the Western world seems settled on just the one.

Still, free-speech *would* have to allow, say, a scholarly treatise 
detailing a Middle East with no Israel.