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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Job Offer
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:10:14 -0400
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:06:44 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 3/19/2025 4:03 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 15:38:24 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3/19/2025 3:36 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 13:45:15 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 05:11:53 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:00:00 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 04:14:24 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 07:50:31 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 18:38:47 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 17:22:05 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 4:55 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 4:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 2:54 PM, Shadow wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       PS Not all monarchies are "bad" per se. As long as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steal too much and actually care for their "subjects".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       []'s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But with every system, there are degrees of plunder, death
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and destruction. Some pursue mass murder, some are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> horrible, others merely awful, some bearable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And as always, I'll ask: So what's the solution?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> heh heh heh read some Marx! or any political philosopher.
>>>>>>>>>>> The dialectic is eternal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's perpetual conflict. Inherent to all human societies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In some cases civil and rhetorical, in others with a sword,
>>>>>>>>>>> knout, secret police or what have you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't discount 'civil and rhetorical' which can be
>>>>>>>>>>> pernicious and severe. Per Alphonse Capone, "You can steal
>>>>>>>>>>> more with a pen than a gun."  The modern applications of
>>>>>>>>>>> that usually start with, "For the children...".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No matter what kind of government, there will be at least one person
>>>>>>>>>> who wants to take control of everybody else... and believes it's only
>>>>>>>>>> right and proper that he does so.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Never mind governments... in any group.
>>>>>>>>> Frankie???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's a self esteem thing. When people take directions from someone
>>>>>>>> with low esteem it makes them feel important. It doesn't seem to
>>>>>>>> matter if the directions are forced on them as in schools, or
>>>>>>>> voluntary as in social groups.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think leaders are generally people with low esteem who need
>>>>>>>> followers to make them feel important.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not, "I'm important so I will lead you." It's more likely, "I
>>>>>>>> need to feel important, so follow me."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry I can't agree with you, at least in all circumstances.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not many senior people in the military are weak kneaded, quite simply
>>>>>>> because their responsibilities are already mapped out before hey get
>>>>>>> the job."I appoint you as in charge of aircraft maintenance" and "if
>>>>>>> the airplanes don't fly as scheduled you lose your job" while probably
>>>>>>> not spoken is understood by both parties.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Leaders" in every category are forever striving to have more power
>>>>>> and get more control. I know that they believe they are "serving," but
>>>>>> that's a bullshit attempt to justify their need to feel important.
>>>>>
>>>>> 	Some leaders are different. Just like people are different.
>>>>> One of the first things you learn in medicine.
>>>>> 	Study "Pepe" Mujica and Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva. They are as
>>>>> poor today as they were when they took office......
>>>>> 	Mujica retired last year, and wants to spend the rest of his
>>>>> life on his farm. Lula retired in 2010 intending to spend his last
>>>>> days with his family, and only came back to fight the fascists here in
>>>>> Brazil.
>>>>> 	Even Jesus, who I believe existed (but as a politician not a
>>>>> character in a  rather badly written fairy tale) was never a
>>>>> power/money/control grabber. And he is still a "Leader" today. LOL.
>>>>> 	[]'s
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, from what I read he seemed like an allright kind of guy. Too bad
>>>> that so many people call him by the wrong name.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> C'est bon
>>>> Soloman
>>>
>>> Allah?
>> 
>> I read somewhere that his name started with "y," but I'm pretty sure
>> they didn't have the English alphabet then. Being a respect person, I
>> always reffered to him as Mr. Christ.
>> 
>> --
>> C'est bon
>> Soloman
>
>You're maybe thinking YWH, whose name shall not be spoken. 
>Oh, and The Christ is an honorific not a name.

Yeah, I knew that. I was teasing. I do that sometimes.

--
C'est bon
Soloman