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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: A third line of cancer treatment reversed the growth of the right paracaval lymph node Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 10:26:52 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 72 Message-ID: <vo5c8c$3ipo2$2@dont-email.me> References: <vnumf8$24cq0$1@dont-email.me> <vnv4tf$2a40b$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <vnvv32$2e9m1$1@dont-email.me> <vo2pd4$31nli$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <vo2us8$32kg8$1@dont-email.me> <228a9804d6919149bac728ccf08134ed90db121e@i2pn2.org> <vo3cf0$35449$1@dont-email.me> <6f15178eda69b13fae9cbfef29acad05c9c6aeb3@i2pn2.org> <vo3t3n$37kcg$1@dont-email.me> <1454e934b709b66a0cb9de9e9796cb46fed0425c@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2025 17:26:53 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b3d2bc3b1177d098b76b3951d2beb1ca"; logging-data="3761922"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/tWF7FsT1Fe4HjJ2u1VX3N" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:unzJ8/YenBUdGH1NCLLbzH10aRY= Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <1454e934b709b66a0cb9de9e9796cb46fed0425c@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250207-0, 2/6/2025), Outbound message Bytes: 4421 On 2/7/2025 6:20 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 2/6/25 10:02 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 2/6/2025 8:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 2/6/25 5:18 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 2/6/2025 1:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 2/6/25 1:26 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 2/6/2025 10:52 AM, Bonita Montero wrote: >>>>>>> Am 05.02.2025 um 16:11 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>> On 2/5/2025 1:44 AM, Bonita Montero wrote: >>>>>>>>> Am 05.02.2025 um 04:38 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>> This treatment does not typically last very long and >>>>>>>>>> will be immediately followed by a riskier fourth line >>>>>>>>>> of treatment that has an initial success rate much higher >>>>>>>>>> than its non progression mortality rate. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Halting problem solved ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The halting problem proof input does specify non-halting >>>>>>>> behavior to its decider. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/ >>>>>>>> publication/369971402_Simulating_Termination_Analyzer_H_is_Not_Fooled_by_Pathological_Input_D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LOOOOOOOOL >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone that understands the C programming language >>>>>> sufficiently well (thus not confused by the unreachable >>>>>> "if" statement) correctly understands that DD simulated >>>>>> by HHH cannot possibly reach its own return instruction. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And anyone that understand the halting problem knows that isn't the >>>>> question being asked. The quesiton you NEED to ask is will the >>>>> program described by the input halt when run? >>>>> >>>>> Since you start off with the wrong question, you logic is just faulty. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Everyone that thinks my question is incorrect is wrong. >>>> It has always been a mathematical mapping from finite >>>> strings to behaviors. That people do not comprehend this >>>> shows the shallowness of the depth of the learned-by-rote >>>> (lack of) understanding. >>>> >>> >>> No, you are just incorreect as you don't know what you are talking >>> about. >>> >>> Yes, it is a mapping of the string to the behavior, and that mapping >>> is DEFINED to be the halting behavior of the program the string >>> describes. >>> >> >> No this is incorrect. The input finite string specifies >> (not merely describes) non halting behavior to its decider. >> > > No, since the definition of "Halting Behavior" is the behavior of the > progran being run. > It may seem that way to people that have learned-by-rote as their only basis. It is actually nothing like that. It is not the behavior that you believe it talks about. It is the behavior that the finite string actually specifies. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer