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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Einstein cheated with his fraudulent derivation of Lorentz transforms Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 20:20:33 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 71 Message-ID: <vo5m8a$3klph$1@dont-email.me> References: <6eb926ee058330958787e0095602f2b0@www.novabbs.com> <JcQoP.16994$M7r5.10736@fx16.ams4> <0281fd2aa8b77628745ebcde5118b9a3@www.novabbs.com> <vo368g$344dp$1@dont-email.me> <fc3528c0f1bc2b170c85efcc2a9bbfe1@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2025 20:17:30 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="39ae14d595f940d039b380adab3e09ce"; logging-data="3823409"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/hUWuDvg2d9uImJZR/REHN" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:CfSijn+vlBSnpWnojeP0UCVYiPg= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <fc3528c0f1bc2b170c85efcc2a9bbfe1@www.novabbs.com> Bytes: 3648 Den 06.02.2025 22:59, skrev rhertz: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 20:35:17 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >> Richard Hetz wrote: >>> Time τ₁: Ray of light reaches ξ(x')=x', in the moving frame k. >>> τ₁ = [ξ(x')-ξ(0)]/c = x'/c >> >> Sorry, this doesn't work. >> >> If the light is moving from the event (ξ₀ = 0, τ₀ = 0) to >> the event (ξ₁, τ₁), then we know: τ₁- τ₀ = (ξ₁-ξ₀)/c or τ₁ = ξ₁/c. >> >> But we don't know τ₁ or ξ₁, τ₁ = τ(x', Δt₁) and ξ₁ = ξ(x', Δt₁) >> >> We don't know these transforms yet. >> You assume that ξ(x', Δt₁) = x' which quite certainly is wrong. >> >> You assume that we know the transform we are trying to find. > > The EVENT ξ(x', Δt₁) = x', with arbitrary t=0, OR ξ(x', x'/(c-v)) = x' > is > a PATHETIC ATTEMPT made by Einstein to FORCE the adoption of the value > obtained in Point 2 (perceived in K) AS IF IT MAY HAPPEN in frame k, > which > is STUPIDLY FALSE. Yes, ξ(x', Δt₁) = x' is STUPIDLY FALSE, that's what I said above. But Einstein never wrote that, you did. You wrote ξ(x') = x' which is even more STUPIDLY FALSE, because ξ is a function of both x and t in K. > > I've been writing here FOR YEARS that the time lapses t_B-t_A = > r_AB/(c-v) and > t'A-t_A = r_AB/(c-v) + r_AB/(c-v) ARE ESSENTIAL TO OBTAIN THE > DENOMINATOR > (c²-v²), which is the KEY FACTOR TO OBTAIN THE GAMMA FACTOR! > Check the 1904 Lorentz paper if you doubt. :-D The transform that follows from the postulates of GR contains the GAMMA FACTOR with mathematical necessity. It is a _fact_ that the Lorentz transform follows from the postulates of SR. This is proven many times by several physicists. Einstein was the first to do it, but he did it in a rather cumbersome way which, as you have demonstrated, may not be simple to understand. In the more than a century since Einstein did it, it has been done many times in much more elegant ways which are simpler to understand. You can, and do, claim that SR and its postulates are wrong, and that the vast amount of experimental evidence confirming SR is made by fraudulent physicist who are members of a MAFFIA. But you can't dispute the fact that the Lorentz transform follows from the postulates of SR. Enough now. Have a nice day. -- Paul https://paulba.no/