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From: bp@www.zefox.net
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Subject: Re: "Held back" updates...
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 19:23:16 -0000 (UTC)
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Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> bp@www.zefox.net writes:
>> Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> What command(s) did you use?
>> The usual,
>> sudo apt update
>> sudo apt upgrade
> 
> I would suggest using ‘apt-get dist-upgrade’, if upgrading manually,
> because:
> 
> (1) ‘apt upgrade’ will currently never remove a package, even if that’s
>     necessary to upgrade something else.
> 
> (2) ‘apt’ is permitted to meaning from version to version, so any advice
>     given about it today could be invalidated tomorrow.
> 
>> It does seem that upgrades trickle in slowly, as advertised by the
>> "update available" icon. It seems as if there needs to be some
>> additional information offered on when to upgrade and/or reboot.
> 
> When to upgrade:
> 
> * I use https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades, which takes most of
>   the hassle out of it.
> 
> When to reboot:
> 
> * /var/run/reboot-required should be nonempty if you need a reboot.
> 
> * https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/needrestart should help with
>   reboot notifications.
> 
> * unattended-upgrades mentions any need to reboot in its email
>   notifications.

Thank you very much! I wasn't aware of the nuances you've presented.
For now /var/run/reboot-required doesn't exist. I'll start checking
it regularly.

bob prohaska