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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: OT: "Free speech" becomes a verb & noun...
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 18:34:43 -0500
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On 2/7/2025 5:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> On Feb 7, 2025 at 12:30:52 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2/7/2025 1:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>   On Feb 6, 2025 at 7:57:21 PM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>>   On 2/6/2025 8:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>     On Feb 6, 2025 at 5:04:14 PM PST, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>>     On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 02:52:29 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   So even when they clarify that they're only going after those resident
>>>>>>>   aliens who support a terrorist organization, you're still worried about
>>>>>>> their free
>>>>>>>   speech rights.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Or simply to avoid the cost of defending a law suit which they would
>>>>>>     certainly win
>>>>>     
>>>>>     The wouldn't certainly win it. The law prohibiting resident aliens from
>>>>>     publicly supporting designated terrorist organization has already been
>>>>>     challenged and found to be constitutional.
>>>>
>>>>   Does that law specify deportation as punishment?
>>>   
>>>   Yes.
>>
>> What's the law (or executive order)?
> 
> There are so many AI portals out there now that it's becoming ridiculous for
> you to constantly ask me to do your legal research for you.
> 
> I'm a licensed attorney. I get paid for legal research (at least until AI
> replaces me). Send me your Venmo and after I get $400 for my one-hour minimum
> fee, I'll wade through the federal code and find the citation for you.

I encountered ambiguity when I looked it up ...hence my reference to 
"law or executive order".  Meanwhile, because you appear certain that it 
specifies 'deportation', I thought it likely you'd have the cite off the 
top of your head, especially if it's recent.


>>>>   ...to be visited only upon persons of precarious status?
>>>   
>>>   If their status is so precarious, maybe they should refrain from publicly
>>>   supporting terrorist organizations, knowing that doing so can get them
>>>   deported.
>>>   
>>>   At what point do we hold grown adults responsible for the consequences of
>>>   their own actions?
>>
>> Maybe they're stupid. But free speech isn't afforded to only geniuses.
> 
> But the consequences of that speech are afforded to everyone.

I don't know whether you mean the consequences of speaking or the 
consequences of what's said.  I'd ask, but I don't have a spare $400...