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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: UK demands Apple break encryption to allow gov't spying wolrdwide, report says Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2025 08:34:49 +0000 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 28 Message-ID: <vo74v9$3veda$1@dont-email.me> References: <vo6qic$12vg3$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2025 09:34:49 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d353623415306d8c35738e91cab3306d"; logging-data="4176298"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/x5gK2VtuQJqqK9FMdj/27V6cgHyoO2nhkiiNPjvdH7Q==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:9gWbKX3YHpDXWCUYvO0x9ge5sUw= In-Reply-To: <vo6qic$12vg3$1@solani.org> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2349 On 08/02/2025 05:37, Jan Panteltje wrote: > UK demands Apple break encryption to allow gov't spying worldwide, reports say > https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/uk-demands-apple-break-encryption-to-allow-govt-spying-worldwide-reports-say/ > Apple last year opposed UK's secret notices demanding encryption backdoors. > > The United Kingdom issued a secret order requiring Apple to create a backdoor > for government security officials to access encrypted data, > The Washington Post reported today, citing people familiar with the matter. > > ... Work to do ;-) This is batshit crazy, because the genie left the bottle decades ago. If Alice wants to communicate secretly with Bob, and if keeping the government ignorant matters enough to Alice and Bob both, they can do it, and the government hasn't a prayer. We know it, they know it, and GCHQ know it. If Apple provide a back door, Alices who care will simply go elsewhere than Apple, or even roll their own using tried and tested ingredients. The only people an Apple back door will ever catch are stupid people with stupid secrets, e.g. politicians. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within