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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.math Subject: Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski Followup-To: sci.logic Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 08:31:02 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <voae76$m3dj$1@dont-email.me> References: <vnh0sq$35mcm$1@dont-email.me> <vni4ta$3ek8m$1@dont-email.me> <vnikre$3hb19$1@dont-email.me> <vnkov9$1971$1@dont-email.me> <vnl9vj$4f8i$1@dont-email.me> <vnndqs$kef3$1@dont-email.me> <vnpd96$vl84$1@dont-email.me> <vnqm3p$1apip$1@dont-email.me> <vnqsbh$1c5sq$1@dont-email.me> <vnsm90$1pr86$1@dont-email.me> <vnte6s$1tra8$1@dont-email.me> <vnv4tf$2a43e$1@dont-email.me> <vo0249$2eqdl$1@dont-email.me> <vo1qae$2s4cr$1@dont-email.me> <vo2i10$302f0$1@dont-email.me> <vo4nj4$3f6so$1@dont-email.me> <vo5btf$3ipo2$1@dont-email.me> <vo7ckh$q2p$1@dont-email.me> <vo7tdg$36ra$6@dont-email.me> <6f2dndBWC7gd4Dr6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <vo9krm$3octb$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2025 15:31:02 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0d7b7e128809f1e0bad2050f21bb5c16"; logging-data="724403"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX181bLvl7PYyPLKEI5l2Mhin" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5tuw9yQPQHULd91+qu/gubMDA9s= In-Reply-To: <vo9krm$3octb$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250209-2, 2/9/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 3903 On 2/9/2025 1:18 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote: > On 08/02/2025 16:51, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> On 02/08/2025 07:32 AM, olcott wrote: > >>> (2) Semantics is fully integrated into every expression of >>> language with each unique natural language sense meaning >>> of a word having its own GUID. > > Illusion and the tyranny of delusion, ad nauseam. > >>> And I am finishing the job. I may have only one month left. >>> The cancer treatment that I will have next month has a 5% chance >>> of killing me and a 1% chance of ruining my brain. It also has >>> about a 70% chance of giving me at least two more years of life. > > Food be your medicine, medicine be your food. Conversely, > good luck with any of that. > >> Instead of just usual model theory and axiomatics >> and "what's true in the logical theory", "what's >> not falsified in the scientific theory", you can >> have a theory where the quantity is truth, and >> then there's a Comenius language of it that only >> truisms are well-formed formulas, then the Liar >> "paradox" is only a prototype of a fallacy, > > Rather, then there is no such thing as a "fallacy", only > flat positivism and Newspeak. Indeed, Popper already is > yet another bad joke at best, but WTF would you know... > In other words you did not understand what he said thus replied to his words with nonsense gibberish pure rhetoric with no actual basis in reasoning. >> there's a Comenius language of it that only >> truisms are well-formed formulas True(L,x) <is> a mathematical mapping from finite string expressions of language through a truthmaker to finite strings expressions providing formalized semantic meanings making the expression true. The prototype of a fallacy that he referred to is the recursive structure of pathological self-reference that never resolves to a truth value. > We live in a yellow submarine, just yellower and yellower. > > -Julio > -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer