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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 15:48:36 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: <voaf85$md5b$1@dont-email.me> References: <vmo1bs$1rnl$1@dont-email.me> <a007714a-1b8c-4d9a-9b90-64c37e2bdef3@att.net> <vnr2au$1cbur$2@dont-email.me> <908c8431-3d44-496c-8f5c-e33cc9554956@att.net> <vnsp4h$1phsq$1@dont-email.me> <faae7d60-6287-4734-87d8-091c3c3e0aa3@att.net> <vnva5b$2al9b$1@dont-email.me> <1ab7ff67-f1fb-4814-9d28-c883a4756097@att.net> <vo07bf$2fh7t$1@dont-email.me> <451804be-c49f-43ab-bca9-8a4af406d945@att.net> <vo0di8$2fh7t$2@dont-email.me> <aaeb6a0f-0a2c-41ee-aecd-24d1532da5eb@att.net> <vo1tbc$2sgko$1@dont-email.me> <11e634bd-c1d3-4d72-9e18-be6ca22b4742@att.net> <vo2pit$31hlr$1@dont-email.me> <aa038824-04c7-4fde-87f4-b9c3316d30a1@att.net> <vo32p6$3393i$1@dont-email.me> <999fb07e-7bef-4423-afeb-a08922613c65@att.net> <vo5cvb$3hukd$1@dont-email.me> <be2d9f3e-be38-451a-8598-de19a949cf1e@att.net> <vo7c1q$7ne$3@dont-email.me> <0d24c3fd-cd63-4e21-9dd4-ab1360560b09@att.net> <cc879e12-d325-48b6-be78-87b8b36cb50d@att.net> <vo8jr7$7mh2$2@dont-email.me> <17c3fd7c534e3c33fc94f4deaaa60f9ba5465897@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2025 15:48:37 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9f09d78a1027445349551860bfb72f87"; logging-data="734379"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX192H22AcNnzXAHB3fFx6bi7qkvxaUXRdw0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:neZcDERpye3FQyz1msGcicNp8Vw= In-Reply-To: <17c3fd7c534e3c33fc94f4deaaa60f9ba5465897@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2624 On 09.02.2025 13:34, joes wrote: > Am Sat, 08 Feb 2025 22:54:46 +0100 schrieb WM: >> On 08.02.2025 18:43, Jim Burns wrote: >> >>> Do you use ω-1 ? >> >> Not in this proof.: >> The axiom of induction says: If any property or predicate P satifies >> (P(1) /\ ∀k(P(k) ==> P(k+1)), then it describes all elements of an >> inductive = infinite set. That is satisfied by the set M of all FISONs >> which are useless in U(A(n)) = ℕ. > Caveat: P is *not* satisfied by the set of all k, only by its elements. Peano is not satisfied by the set of all k either. But no exceptioncan be identified. Regards, WM