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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 10:43:51 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <voam08$no4h$2@dont-email.me> References: <vo6420$3mpmf$1@dont-email.me> <vo7be3$jug$1@dont-email.me> <vo7r8d$36ra$3@dont-email.me> <vo9ura$i5ha$1@dont-email.me> <voahc5$m3dj$8@dont-email.me> <2fe1924f68cb05fd2c204e2fa6988a74bc0c71ce@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2025 17:43:52 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0d7b7e128809f1e0bad2050f21bb5c16"; logging-data="778385"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19U4sUPEmbPQqB2RsbxwUJa" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:TtMjJolUXwaUDcCCBR9q4jSV3bc= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <2fe1924f68cb05fd2c204e2fa6988a74bc0c71ce@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250209-4, 2/9/2025), Outbound message Bytes: 2733 On 2/9/2025 10:39 AM, joes wrote: > Am Sun, 09 Feb 2025 09:24:53 -0600 schrieb olcott: >> On 2/9/2025 4:08 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2025-02-08 14:55:09 +0000, olcott said: >>>> On 2/8/2025 4:25 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2025-02-07 23:13:04 +0000, olcott said: > >>>>>> The finite string DD specifies non-terminating recursive simulation >>>>>> to simulating termination analyzer HHH. >>>>> No, it does not. DD as quoted below pecifies nothing about the >>>>> behaviour of HHH, only its argument types and return type. >>>> >> int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); // line 3 of DD >>>> Requires HHH to simulate itself simulating DD recursively. >>> No, it does not. I only requires that the execution of HHH with a >>> function pointer to DD must be started. OP does not show what happens >>> next. >> Within the context that HHH is a simulating termination analyzer line >> 3 of DD proves that DD cannot possibly reach its own "if" statement. > Yes, because HHH doesn’t halt. > No sense talking to people that don't have enough technical skill to verify the actual facts. The finite string x86 machine code of C function DD that is input to HHH(DD) is correctly rejected by simulating termination analyzer HHH as non-halting. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer