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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: lisp scripts Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 00:00:15 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <vobfif$sefh$3@dont-email.me> References: <m2wmdzr7k6.fsf@freecol.be> <voajsf$nd2k$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 01:00:16 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8d964e1be02ec4fc321f0a3e4e27d15a"; logging-data="932337"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Sb+RHjUDOOh7JVEzChUxo" User-Agent: Pan/0.161 (Chasiv Yar; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jXJRgzh1TeA2iPyC7cjQ37ar35U= Bytes: 2097 On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 11:07:43 -0500, Dan Espen wrote: > I once spent a week converting a LOT of sed/awk to Perl. I turned a > complicated mess into something any programmer could readily understand. > (And actually worked.) I have pointed out several times that Perl does everything awk can do, at least as concisely, and a lot more besides. Which is why I never bothered to learn awk. Some people get annoyed every time I say that. > Now I'd use Python. With Perl, I was never quite sure I fully understood what was going on. There was always some hint of magic lurking just behind the scenes. Also the core language ends up quite large, with all the built-in features packed into it. (Those two characteristics are probably related.) With Python, I always felt that I understood what I was doing. And I kept that feeling as I got into more complex features like descriptors and metaclasses. It is, for the most part, a language whose growth has been carefully managed, so that the language core remains compact and cohesive and yet remains an incredibly powerful base to build on (as the standard library demonstrates).