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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: A theory of swamps, schools fly off [Benefits of AI] (Re: Divide, Conquer and Loose [Limitations of AI]) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 12:34:25 +0100 Message-ID: <voco7t$1r6o$2@solani.org> References: <voag5b$gjj$4@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 11:34:21 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="60632"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.20 Cancel-Lock: sha1:8Hznedk1swAgO6ls/QxLFVECiR4= In-Reply-To: <voag5b$gjj$4@solani.org> X-User-ID: eJwNy8kRwEAIA7CWMIcD5WSZdf8lJPqrguA+yWKWSmfVzlwKl3ov0rEK2cGZsVJbm55hZzQUfc1R9rdY+fgHWokVNw== Bytes: 3201 Lines: 70 Hi, Most schools don't make sense. Even delegating training to AI doesn't make any sense. The idea of "understanding" is nonsense. The old style of like "understanding" grammar and lexicon, its all delivered by AI now. Because language has so many exceptions, your brain trains like a ChatGPT pre-trains. Schools need a new model of A work-first, school-second approach could: - Ensure learning is immediately applicable, not just theoretical. - Reduce the disconnect between school and the real economy. - Keep motivation high—people learn better when they see direct relevance. - Allow for continuous adaptation, rather than relying on outdated curricula. You see this in all USENET forums. People discuss nonsense like set theory or whether wave function is real or not. They have no clue what the applications are. Universities need also change, more lab work, more group work, more industry work. USA has become a swamp of idiots. Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > > Hi, > > Now history repeats itself. There are > many pseudo software engineering program > verification papers, that say, just chop > > up a problem, and solve each part separately, > and put the things together. Which is utter > nonsense. Try this with a SAT Solver, > > the smallest unit is the propositional variable > you cannot solve it independently, only > "try" 0 and 1, eh voila you are back to > > NP Complete. Thank god we have Christos > Papadimitriou. According to Wikipedia he is > is the author of the textbook Computational > > Complexity, one of the most widely used > textbooks in the field of computational > complexity theory. Might be the cure for > > any singularity and AGI dreams: > > Chatbot Software Begins to Face Fundamental Limitations > Recently, computer scientist Binghui Peng and > his team proved mathematically that there may > be a hard limit to LLMs’ compositional > task-solving abilities > https://www.quantamagazine.org/chatbot-software-begins-to-face-fundamental-limitations-20250131/ > > > Bye