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From: Jos Boersema <Josjoha@market.socialism.nl>
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Subject: The Rabbis are agents of materialism, pretending the opposite.
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 13:17:35 -0000 (UTC)
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title: Donkey 🫏 of Moshiach
source: Plainview Synagogue
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmFcuy43MUI

   Reply ...

I guess you could say that if you make a loan under the Torah law (being
Jewish and to another Jewish person), then this money is a material
good. Money is the most refined good which exists in an economy, because
it can easily be converted into everything else. Raw land is on the
other end of the economy, the least refined but the starting point of all
life, and to own it means freedom for that person. If you make this loan
based on the greedy loans of the Rabbis, you do not "elevate" (morally)
this material (money), but you are greedy and looking for more money for
yourself. This is what the prozbul is about, see Shulchan Aruch. You have
become slaves to your greed, and you no longer follow the Torah which
orders you to be moral and _use_ this "material" (money) for a "higher"
(moral) purpose, of giving loans without interest (your faker Rambam
ruined this partially with this joke called a heter iska) and forgive them
in the 7th year to the poor. To spell it out because what does "higher"
and "lower" even mean: to give the loan without interest, means that you
who are rich enough to make loans to others share happiness with poor
people. You are spreading the happiness to your brothers and sisters,
who in return will likely react with love to both you and the Torah law
itself who afforded them these rights - and both of these lead to peace,
to justice, to courage, and all good things for the whole of society,
from which the one who gave the loan will likely eventually also benefit,
perhaps even directly if he became poor. It increases the happiness,
and that is the point of course. Happiness is its own point.

It is the same with land also. The land is a great object of greed for
people, through which they show what an demon they are, what an evil
creatures they are, when they want to own it all and make the others
their slaves, even to kill many people - sometimes millions of people
- for the control over land, just so they can have another palace for
themselves. Under the Torah, the land is distributed to all, for free and
forever. The land may not be sold in perpetuity. This is how you make
people happy, with the material world. You could have been evil, and
you have become evil, because you follow Rambam and his phony rantings
in his book Shemita 10:8. Rather than be moral and spread happiness and
peace, you chose evil and follow the lies of an already corrupt Israel,
and now you as a people still pretend that you are holy and amazing
and very special, but it is all a big lie. You ruined the loans and you
ruined the land with your greed, and then you turn around and pretend to
be holy and following the Torah even more than the people who actually
have followed it, with tying boxes to your head and all this fakery
Israel has been into already for thousands of years.

This is why there will likely not come a Redemption for this Israel,
but rather the opposite: 7 Nazi holocausts in one event, as per the
punishment section of the Torah.  You reject the obvious truth like
this, you are slaves to your greed so to say, or to put it differently:
you want to dominate over others and to control and exploit them, to
hate them and use them for your own short term profit, because that is
what the prozbul is about, and that is also what the overthrow of the
Jubilee is about. To make matters worse, you also broke the Shabbos in
two, spreading it over two days so you could break it on both. I guess
it could all be forgiven if you at least return when shown the error
of your wicked ways which have destroyed so much in the world already,
and caused not to happen so much good so that we are now facing global
nuclear war and even worse, but you don't listen even in this time when it
should be easy to listen and easy to return to the obvious truth. Still
you the people of Israel don't listen, and therefore I doubt that this
still can be forgiven for most of the people of Israel. You don't take
life serious, you don't take the consequences serious, you don't take
the Torah serious, you don't really take anything serious anymore. You
are still idolators, and when someone puts on a big robe with shining
colors, you fall on your face for it as if you had seen an angel.

Speaking of idolatry, at the late 2nd Temple, the Rabbis apparently
re-dedicated the Temple to the Sun, with a device called Lamp of Helena. I
think in a matter like this also: it doesn't matter if you pretend it
is not so. It seems to me that a jewish person reading this, just tells
himself "but that was just an ornament, that is not idolatry!", and then
they really seem to believe that the deceptions they convince themselves
off are true, just because they said it to themselves, like someone who
has lost touch with reality. Did you ask the western idolators how they
think about their idols ? You will hear the exact same thing: "We are not
worshiping idols ! This is merely a representation and blablablah". You
put a Sun reflector on the inner gate of the 2nd Temple. That is not
just any place, and the Sun reflects extremely brightly from well
reflecting surfaces which are large enough, as I assume this was. Then
you bowed. You are an idolatrous people, and instead of just making it
worse by pretending it is not so, it would be better for you to admit it
and come clean on the lies of your people, because when a liar believes
in his own mind in the lies that he is telling, this ultimately doesn't
make them true. He is ultimately not the judge of his own fate. You do not
change anything about yourselves, by hanging on to these lies, pretending
they are true. It may give you a temporary feeling of relief, that "oh
my goodness, fortunately this guy is wrong and these claims are false,
because if otherwise we are a horribly corrupt people and there would be
so much to do, and so many punishments are heading our way because of it".

That is not how reality works. If you continue to deny how corrupt you
are a as people, you only make it worse. Catholics are not free from
idolatry just because they believe their own nonsense. They are idolators,
they worship statues. Their talk around it is just making it worse,
because now they are not only idolators, but also deceivers. This is
what you are also doing for yourselves, you are deceiving ourselves and
deceiving others as well, which only makes it worse. The hurt which you
will eventually feel when the truth must come out, will only be worse,
the longer you go on with the lies the worse it gets. If you stop with
the lies, that will be the eventual relief. Then you say "at least then
I stopped", and you can feel good about that. That is what gives you
peace. Now Israel (at least the religious part of it, whatever that even
means) seeks their peace in the lie that the Rabbis are true, and that
they are "hanging on", they style themselves as heroes in a bad world
who doesn't want to listen, but _they themselves_ are the ones who don't
want to listen, and don't want to act. You even also became similar to
far eastern ideologies, in that they seem to sometimes say that reality
is whatever you think it is, as if you can bend reality with your mind
and make the lies be true, so that you're no longer a liar because you
simply altered reality with your belief. You didn't alter reality. People
are hurting because of fake Rabbinical laws, and the world may have to
die because it was not corrected. Those who could have corrected it,
fell into its delusions, and then lacked the courage and care to get
themselves out of it. Is there _not_ going to be a nuclear world war,
because people believe it won't happen ? That's simply nonsense. You
alter reality by the correct work and effort, which for a Jewish person
means apparently: to give loans to be forgiven, without interest, and
to distribute the land for free to all, and not sell it in perpetuity.

If you don't listen, you kill yourself, you better realize that. You
are your own enemies, your own destroyers. You have a hard neck and you
are rebellious and idolatrous, this has been said in the Tanach many
times. You didn't want to listen to Moshe Rabbeinu either right from
the start, and tried to kill him even, you killed many prophets and you
fell into corruption many times. Who are you kidding that you are good
and holy right now ? You are kidding yourselves, but it will lead you
nowhere but into more pain and regret.

  * End reply.

Continuing on Usenet. The ignorance and obstinacy of all of humanity is
astonishing to see. I don't think this species has a future.

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