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From: davidd02@tpg.com.au (David Duffy)
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Subject: Re: (Realized World) Knight Moves by Walter Jon Williams
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 22:21:48 -0000 (UTC)
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Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
> Cryptoengineer wrote:
>> Christian Weisgerber wrote:
>>> Paul S Person wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Knight Moves by Walter Jon Williams
>>>
>>> This opportunity is as good as any to ask a question I've had at
>>> the back of my head for some time:
>>>
>>> There are many works of pop culture (movies, books as you note)
>>> that have titles along the lines of "Knight Moves" and "Night Moves".
>>> I assume one of those is a pun on the other, but which one? What's
>>> the underlying original expression?
>>>
>>> Yes, I know chess and how a knight moves, but that doesn't seem
>>> very relevant.
>>
>> I don't think this is a case of imitation/satire, but rather
>> coincidence. 'knight' and 'night' have quite different
>> derivations, and perfectly valid meanings on their own, without
>> referencing the other.
>>
>> My goto memory linked to 'Night Moves' is Bob Seger's 1976
>> song of that name, though usage for the term started spiking
>> around 1970.
>>
>> Crossover confusion can get interesting. In my younger, more
>> innocent days, I thought the Moody Blues 1967 song was titled
>> 'Knights in White Satin', and imagined knights in armor
>> galloping across fields with pure white surcoats.
>>
>> Apparently, I wasn't the only one:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_in_White_Satin
>>
>> Turns out, Justin Hayward (who wrote the song at only 19),
>> was gifted a set of white satin sheets by his girlfriend.
>
> My mind also heard "Knights in White Satin." Hayward's observation
> about how he "was at the end of one big love affair and the beginning
> of another" is an excellent way to emotionally integrate old
> girlfriends.
_The Goodies_[0] quote
"One a knight, always a knight. Twice a night, doing all right..."
Cheers, David Duffy
[0] UK comedy trio and TV series. Several SFnal episodes.