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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 06:32:45 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <voendt$1fv53$1@dont-email.me> References: <vnh0sq$35mcm$1@dont-email.me> <vni4ta$3ek8m$1@dont-email.me> <vnikre$3hb19$1@dont-email.me> <vnkov9$1971$1@dont-email.me> <vnl9vj$4f8i$1@dont-email.me> <vnndqs$kef3$1@dont-email.me> <vnpd96$vl84$1@dont-email.me> <vnqm3p$1apip$1@dont-email.me> <vnqsbh$1c5sq$1@dont-email.me> <vnsm90$1pr86$1@dont-email.me> <vnte6s$1tra8$1@dont-email.me> <vnv4tf$2a43e$1@dont-email.me> <vo0249$2eqdl$1@dont-email.me> <vo1qae$2s4cr$1@dont-email.me> <vo2i10$302f0$1@dont-email.me> <vo4nj4$3f6so$1@dont-email.me> <vo5btf$3ipo2$1@dont-email.me> <vo7ckh$q2p$1@dont-email.me> <vo7tdg$36ra$6@dont-email.me> <6f2dndBWC7gd4Dr6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <vo9krm$3octb$1@dont-email.me> <voae76$m3dj$1@dont-email.me> <3f1ed83042ed4a260d1a63ef7c61528ea9858947@i2pn2.org> <vobaaa$rhmq$1@dont-email.me> <ozidnWTo6a9fLjf6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 06:32:46 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="049f3f71bceeca6a24fe715145b07f0f"; logging-data="1572003"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19eyHT960GeIPgPFlNj6Ssrr+7xogAcLnc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5Od5jxfRKpBDYJ5ACA8S0giSdyE= In-Reply-To: <ozidnWTo6a9fLjf6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3217 On 11/02/2025 03:19, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>> We live in a yellow submarine, just yellower and yellower. > > The Comenius language that Comenius posits, is also > like Leibniz' universal language, which also he posits, Language is a tool in Leibniz, not the primary thing. <https://seprogrammo.blogspot.com/2024/01/on-logic-of-it.html> Indeed, all you keep spouting is rather anti-Leibniz. Not per chance, in this empire of fundamental inversions. > like Nietzsche's eternal text, which he bemoans its > absence, and like Quine in Word & Object, ignores. > > A footnote in Quine refers to Russell's inconstancy, > or mere generously, development, with regards to > "never knowing what he is talking about". > > Nietzsche as well had a later greater return > to Platonism, though it was much less promoted > since logical positivists of a particular formal > variety don't care for it. > > Then the pre-geometric (technical, mathematical, ideal) > and pre-scientific (technical, scientific, analytical) > have that Derrida for Husserl very much has it so > part of the Lebenswelt, which we inhabit. > > (analytical) I once wrote a little word randomizer: given any text in input, it spit out prose that was more honest than yours. -Julio