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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Product idea Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2025 13:24:10 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <voj01g$2fv8m$1@dont-email.me> References: <67ab9473$15$1783$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <vog9lr$1tu2d$1@dont-email.me> <vogdq3$1uld9$1@dont-email.me> <voggm7$1v514$1@dont-email.me> <do4t7lxvhi.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <r5qnqj5ih4mvcg53consmr8cuhqljpd3mi@4ax.com> <u4at7lxqk7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <voip5t$2ekkb$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2025 21:24:17 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="687f64a2e4535f7f8ac99c19015f58b3"; logging-data="2620694"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX185a+UP49wrsqqMgqAW6wR8" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:eW2gGrUA6liEqfjY85qzEW3R41o= In-Reply-To: <voip5t$2ekkb$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2943 On 2/12/2025 11:27 AM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote: > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> Couldn't you burn gas, boil water, spin a generator to make >>> electricity, and heat your house with the condensate heat? >>> >>> That would make free electricity. >> >> Certainly, and it has a name. Combined cycle, or something similar. It >> is a simple as running a diesel generator and heating the house with it >> radiator, and a heat exchanger on the exhaust. > > Long ago there was a residential product introduced: > https://hondanews.com/en-US/releases/honda-and-climate-energy-begin-retail-sales-of-freewatt-micro-chp-home-heating-and-power-system > > Far as I know it failed commercially, but it's unclear what went wrong. > Capital cost might have been the stumbling block, as it surely would > be with a crypo-mining heater. A few kW of computers costs much more > than a few kW of nichrome wire resistance elements. A local (SoAZ) firm made a (PV) solar collector that used a mirror to focus the sunlight on a small element. As efficiency drops with temperature, they used water cooling to keep the device from "melting". And, realized they had a good source of hot water. Similarly, you can purchase an add-on for your ACbrrr that more efficiently cools the condenser -- with water. And, circulates this water through your swimming pool. I wonder how corrosive the chemicals used to treat the poolwater are wrt this heat exchanger? I "store" surplus solar power in *data*. Perhaps the most efficient "storage" mechanism for "energy" (i.e., as "work done")?