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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: So, What Games Are You Looking Forward To? (2025 Ed) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:37:50 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <vojidc$2jj85$1@dont-email.me> References: <0as4pj531ru40hdt3mf0igb9aokj2tbfd4@4ax.com> <06c893e040b8cccc3c19edee870cc912a78367d7@i2pn2.org> <9mu9pjdrddr1t9b9fkbpcbrdrhco8j3lda@4ax.com> <rttapjdoi9jopqu4d4sri7q4r6dsmfvq83@4ax.com> <d7jcpjdf6dr7r4fk7qe747thdn6m5n6a7f@4ax.com> <086dqjd12c0n9c03qls5j459sd9bumv8lr@4ax.com> <r6veqjta6k7bdv8ajc2jcbfcsuarovpjif@4ax.com> <al7oqj5qu9ko35b858jmck8kherv1hn1u0@4ax.com> <voifju$2ct6j$1@dont-email.me> <i21qqj5tii8874k7hgjnoqqgittktkchue@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 02:37:49 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d871b6568d3dcc0f28fb6a9f313a0122"; logging-data="2739461"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX180KQxIAGCUz19VXVbsqLUm" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Eo7DK2jJaa8igwlkonPCH+e3hB0= In-Reply-To: <i21qqj5tii8874k7hgjnoqqgittktkchue@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2799 On 2/12/2025 12:31 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote: > On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 07:43:59 -0800, Dimensional Traveler > <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: > > >> I have no problem calling Star Wars 'Science Fantasy'. But Star Trek is >> science fiction. It isn't _hard_ SF, as it includes social changes but >> SF has a long tradition of that as well. (And Doc Smith had no real >> world science to base any of the psi based aspects of Lensmen upon even >> at the time he wrote those books.) > > I'd agree with you on classic Star Trek, but modern Star Trek is a > different beast. It's not anything about modern science or examining > how it would affect social changes anymore. It's soap opera in space > set against a background that mirrors current events. It's about the > drama and thus increasingly falls beneath the 'space opera' umbrella. > > (That said, on -increasingly rare- occassion Star Trek does surprise > by being a bit deeper than usual... but so too does Star Wars > sometimes, albeit never in the main-line movies.) > Well, I don't know the current "state" of Star Trek. The last Trek show I watched was season 2 of 'Orville'. Everything is on streaming now and I don't do streaming. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.