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On 2/14/2025 6:16 AM, John B. wrote:
> On 14 Feb 2025 10:59:50 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
> 
>> John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 14 Feb 2025 01:36:59 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 2/13/2025 3:43 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>>>> Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> I believe at one time the US Postal Service sponsored cycling. Well they
>>>>>>> sure have been on my bad list as of late. Seems things are much slower
>>>>>>> than they ever were and shoddy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I order a set of different guitar strings from a place in Traverse City
>>>>>>> Michigan. That is about 8 hour drive from here. Priority mailed out
>>>>>>> 02/05/25. I got the package today and yes the weather was bad they said
>>>>>>> it would be delay. It sat in at the post office in my town for 5 days.
>>>>>>> It showed up with a plastic bag around the mailing envelop and note of
>>>>>>> package damage. There was nothing in the package and only one set of the
>>>>>>> 4 string sets I ordered in the plastic bag sealing it all with apology.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The place is going to send out the remaining strings but I wonder if
>>>>>>> they file a claim with the post office. Frankly probably not worth the
>>>>>>> effort. To top that off it took 21 days in December for a letter of mine
>>>>>>> to get to Philadelphia Pennsylvania.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe Trump will look  into that too they need something done. Frankly
>>>>>>> quite allowing junk mail and get the act together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it?s not funded by government ie has to fund its self, then services
>>>>>> will always come 2nd to profitability, ie if one wants no or low junk mail,
>>>>>> and for it to be run as service then will need some government funding. EX
>>>>>> postie in UK which has been privatised and now a commercial company with
>>>>>> totally expected results ie worsening service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can?t see Trump wanting to fund it somehow!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>
>>>>> There's devil in the details.  Each government in turn made
>>>>> different decisions on structure with widely variable
>>>>> performance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Japan's Post is exemplary, Deutsche Post has had a series of
>>>>> troubles not at all ending. USPS was excellent, really,
>>>>> until around 2013~14 or so. (I'm less familiar with UK Royal
>>>>> Mail so no comment)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A quick search suggests that Japans post is still controlled by its
>>>> Government at least for the time being with the majority of the shares, and
>>>> indeed looks like a short term gain rather long term as ever the postal
>>>> service doesn?t make money like number of things it?s service and within
>>>> reason should be treated as such.
>>>>
>>>> Ie watch this space!
>>>>
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>>>
>>> The "The Postal Reorganization Act of 1970" states that:
>>>
>>> The United States Postal Service shall be operated as a basic and
>>> fundamental service provided to the people by the Government of the
>>> United States, authorized by the Constitution, created by Act of
>>> Congress, and supported by the people."
>>>
>>> It is likely that at least some of the lousy service is due to the Act
>>> allowing "the four major postal unions (National Association of Letter
>>> Carriers, American Postal Workers Union, National Postal Mail Handlers
>>> Union, and the National Rural Letter Carriers' Association) won full
>>> collective bargaining rights: the right to negotiate on wages,
>>> benefits and working conditions"
>>
>> Not convinced that taking workers rights away will boost productivity, it
>> appears to be government run but not funded, see the railways for similar
>> situation, so has to do universal deliveries, ie delivery where is
>> practical, but 1st class mail has declined massively so its revenue has,
>> much like other mail carriers.
>>
>> Plus pensions and health care, taking that away is unlikely to boost morale
>> and productivity quite the reverse they would find jobs elsewhere, and get
>> folks who really don’t care.
>>
>> Hence junk mail, if it has to be run as business which it is, then you need
>> junk mail.
>>
>> Remove that constraint and you could cut some of the staff as folks retire
>> as junk mail is high in volume low in financial reward, and with out it
>> mail rounds could be larger like they where few decades back, but would
>> need to be funded by the government as mail delivery is a declining market.
>>
>> Roger Merriman
> 
> 
> Worker's Rights??? Try telling that to the Army :-)

You have very few of the rights afforded to civilians when you join the 
military. You acknowledge that when you sign your life away to them. 
USPS workers are civilian government employees and at least at this 
time, they still have rights as afforded by the constitution. But, to 
reiterate Rogers point, "watch this space"

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