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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: The US Postal Service
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 08:20:51 -0600
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On 2/14/2025 6:44 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 18:14:29 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 05:26:06 -0500, Catrike Ryder
>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 10:41:22 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 14 Feb 2025 01:36:59 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/13/2025 3:43 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>>>>> Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I believe at one time the US Postal Service sponsored cycling. Well they
>>>>>>>> sure have been on my bad list as of late. Seems things are much slower
>>>>>>>> than they ever were and shoddy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I order a set of different guitar strings from a place in Traverse City
>>>>>>>> Michigan. That is about 8 hour drive from here. Priority mailed out
>>>>>>>> 02/05/25. I got the package today and yes the weather was bad they said
>>>>>>>> it would be delay. It sat in at the post office in my town for 5 days.
>>>>>>>> It showed up with a plastic bag around the mailing envelop and note of
>>>>>>>> package damage. There was nothing in the package and only one set of the
>>>>>>>> 4 string sets I ordered in the plastic bag sealing it all with apology.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The place is going to send out the remaining strings but I wonder if
>>>>>>>> they file a claim with the post office. Frankly probably not worth the
>>>>>>>> effort. To top that off it took 21 days in December for a letter of mine
>>>>>>>> to get to Philadelphia Pennsylvania.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe Trump will look  into that too they need something done. Frankly
>>>>>>>> quite allowing junk mail and get the act together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it’s not funded by government ie has to fund its self, then services
>>>>>>> will always come 2nd to profitability, ie if one wants no or low junk mail,
>>>>>>> and for it to be run as service then will need some government funding. EX
>>>>>>> postie in UK which has been privatised and now a commercial company with
>>>>>>> totally expected results ie worsening service.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can’t see Trump wanting to fund it somehow!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's devil in the details.  Each government in turn made
>>>>>> different decisions on structure with widely variable
>>>>>> performance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Japan's Post is exemplary, Deutsche Post has had a series of
>>>>>> troubles not at all ending. USPS was excellent, really,
>>>>>> until around 2013~14 or so. (I'm less familiar with UK Royal
>>>>>> Mail so no comment)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A quick search suggests that Japans post is still controlled by its
>>>>> Government at least for the time being with the majority of the shares, and
>>>>> indeed looks like a short term gain rather long term as ever the postal
>>>>> service doesn’t make money like number of things it’s service and within
>>>>> reason should be treated as such.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ie watch this space!
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The "The Postal Reorganization Act of 1970" states that:
>>>>
>>>> The United States Postal Service shall be operated as a basic and
>>>> fundamental service provided to the people by the Government of the
>>>> United States, authorized by the Constitution, created by Act of
>>>> Congress, and supported by the people."
>>>>
>>>> It is likely that at least some of the lousy service is due to the Act
>>>> allowing "the four major postal unions (National Association of Letter
>>>> Carriers, American Postal Workers Union, National Postal Mail Handlers
>>>> Union, and the National Rural Letter Carriers' Association) won full
>>>> collective bargaining rights: the right to negotiate on wages,
>>>> benefits and working conditions"
>>>
>>> 90+% of the USPS mail deliveries I get go straight into the trash
>>> before it gets opened or into the house. Why are taxpayers funding the
>>> delivery of trash?
>>
>> My father worked for the post office all his working life and before
>> the "Act" things were different. Companies used to deliver great
>> bundles of divertimenti all addressed and packaged and the Postal
>> workers had to handle it. In those days the Postal Office was a bit
>> like the army... You got more hours work? Just work more hours. :-)
> 
> Back in my more reckless life, I had a relationship with a pretty
> young woman whose husband worked evenings and nights at the Post
> Office. He was a very nasty guy, and among other things about him, she
> told me how he stole mail and wrangled extra pay. This was sometime in
> the late seventies when I was not only a lot more reckless, but better
> looking and much more fit. Back then I worked out with weights. I met
> her at the health club where she worked as a trainer.
> 
> For what it's worth, she divorced him and moved back to California
> when he was convicted of armed robbery. She remarried, went back to
> school and became a physical therapist. We still exchange Christmas
> cards.
> 
> --
> C'est bon
> Soloman

Well, yes and those Postal employees are quite 'newsy'.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/postal-service-worker-pleads-guilty-stealing-300000-money-collectibles-rcna191372

But like the US Army, who have some number of perverts and 
felons, some such incidence is inherent to large numbers of 
humans.

With over half a million employees, systems of this scale 
are just utterly different from small business:

https://facts.usps.com/size-and-scope/

p.s. US Army is around 450,000.


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Andrew Muzi
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