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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Bicycle race training technique Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 11:23:59 -0600 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 50 Message-ID: <vonu7f$3htuk$2@dont-email.me> References: <vntg7j$1t6m9$3@dont-email.me> <PMsoP.271871$Hfb1.156769@fx46.iad> <14o4qj5qb3gg1cvn4a4fq26c4mifk2sgne@4ax.com> <GAwqP.8602$HCE9.2474@fx04.iad> <ta6oqjh65vhasejp6tp9c9a39g5pssphe8@4ax.com> <fpqoqjhflidbgsi3hjq99vtk6gmjeo5gg9@4ax.com> <10jpqj12ulelp5aavs76s1sppaf9h59976@4ax.com> <m14cseFfmlfU1@mid.individual.net> <l59qqjl3dk8uhdeei3h20tgk4ti4fumth3@4ax.com> <m16568Foag4U1@mid.individual.net> <vonq7p$3hmi0$1@dont-email.me> <vonr3d$3htuj$1@dont-email.me> <mjuuqj5oaun69kms9in97e00ioonq2anng@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 18:23:59 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ee8180adef4a465d4623b4c7d7a24a39"; logging-data="3733460"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+dKF2CnUpFgsJB7rHrDAsb" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:jAetVDBF4bvaYJGUwtQ1SbZSJog= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <mjuuqj5oaun69kms9in97e00ioonq2anng@4ax.com> Bytes: 3495 On 2/14/2025 11:20 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 10:30:37 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: > >> On 2/14/2025 10:15 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> On 2/13/2025 7:00 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: >>>> >>>> Time Trials no the road isn’t closed they have code names >>>> harking back to >>>> it being illegal, and be large dual carriageways, >>>> depending on the location >>>> might be held earlier in the day, though not always. >>> >>> Some here might not know about the days when time trialing >>> was illegal in the UK. Roger might want to give a quick >>> summary of the situation and the work-arounds. >>> >>> Today in the U.S. some advocates have pointed out a >>> potential disadvantage of having a bicycle legally defined >>> as a vehicle: It may make bicyclists in technical violation >>> of certain anti-racing laws - for example, when a cyclist >>> and a buddy sprint for the next telephone pole. In at least >>> some states, advocacy organizations closely monitor proposed >>> traffic laws to ensure that certain ones apply only to >>> _motor_ vehicles. >>> >> >> Illegal? In my youth, TT was widely popular in England and >> moreso there than anywhere else! >> >> https://www.welovecycling.com/wide/2018/09/10/the-surprising-origins-of-time-trials/ >> >> https://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/cms/ctt/history >> >> And back to the earlier point, TT in traffic can result in >> some startling times even though riders are sort of honor >> (honour) bound not to draft. Which is why English TT times >> regularly beat world and Olympic records in those days. > > Are time trial racers also honor bound not to use performance > enhancing drugs and gasses? The discussion is about using carbon > monoxide to temporarily increase the oxygen carrying capacity of the > racers blood. I would guess(tm) that such things are not worth the > risk. To you. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971