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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies
 non-terminating behavior to HHH
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 17:33:55 -0600
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On 2/14/2025 7:49 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> Op 14.feb.2025 om 13:40 schreef olcott:
>> On 2/14/2025 2:58 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2025-02-14 00:07:23 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 2/13/2025 3:20 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-02-13 04:21:34 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/12/2025 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-02-11 14:41:38 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course not. However, the fact that no reference to that article
>>>>>>>>> before or when HHH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That paper and its code are the only thing that I have been 
>>>>>>>> talking about in this forum for several years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doesn't matter when you don't say that you are talking about that 
>>>>>>> paper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, that is irrelevant to the fact that the subject line 
>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>> a false claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a truism and not one person on the face of the
>>>>>> Earth can possibly show otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fact that the claim on subject line is false is not a truism.
>>>>> In order to determine the claim is false one needs some knowledge
>>>>> that is not obvious.
>>>>
>>>> When you try to show the steps attempting to show that
>>>> it is false I will point out the error.
>>>
>>> Step 1: Find people who know C.
>>> Step 2: Show them DD of OP and ask.
>>>
>>>> This is the only topic that I will discuss and any
>>
>> typedef void (*ptr)();
>> int HHH(ptr P);
>>
>> int DD()
>> {
>>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>    if (Halt_Status)
>>      HERE: goto HERE;
>>    return Halt_Status;
>> }
>>
>> int main()
>> {
>>    HHH(DD);
>> }
>>
>> DD  correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally.
> 
> Indeed. The simulation by HHH fails to reach the end of the halting DD.

different instance with provably different execution trace

> This shows that it is a bad idea to use a simulator to decide about 
> halting/non-halting behaviour.
> 


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