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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: A variation on my current mirror low distortion sine wave oscillator - 10dB less distortion and much the same number of components Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:19:04 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <vorsg8$emeo$7@dont-email.me> References: <voc5mp$138ut$1@dont-email.me> <gp6vqjl5oma32tga136kspreh7a8182ofg@4ax.com> <vorldj$24h0$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 06:19:06 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d75ee582ebeec73a753b6c64c71cae15"; logging-data="481752"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19kA4gHU5qEgAou6oO7pCHJg66cbgnkxr0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:b0ze2LFDGi20IzFtiqbQe1KgxU8= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <vorldj$24h0$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250216-0, 16/2/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2845 On 16/02/2025 2:18 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: > "JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message news:gp6vqjl5oma32tga136kspreh7a8182ofg@4ax.com... >> On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 17:18:01 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Basically same idea, but two separate controllable asymmetric current >>> mirrors, rather than one, and no current steering. The half-wave >>> rectifier still seems to be the source of the distortion in the >>> stabilised output. >>> >>> C25 and C26 take out as much of it as I can. Increasing them - from 15nF >>> to 33nF makes the distortion worse. Splitting the resistors into three >>> rather than two and adding two more capacitors might help, but what this >>> circuit needs is more insight, rather than more components. >> >> What is the point of a push-pull current mirror? You don't need >> response at dc. A "class A" (for want of a better term) mirror with >> minimal current deviation will have distortion levels orders of >> magnitude less than the circuit you propose. >> > > Is there any specific reason for the npn Q5? > Replacing it and R25 with a single 100k resistor from U2 to Q1 base seems to work just as well. > 2kHz is 141dB down measured with cursors on a zoomed in FFT in LTSPice 24.1.2 Complementary pairs often work better than simple emitter followers. John May probably has a good reason for the choice. I've used them from time to time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sziklai_pair -- Bill Sloman, Sydney