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From: Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: tubes vs tubeless? you decide.
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 11:51:19 -0600
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On 2/16/2025 9:54 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 2/16/2025 4:57 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>> An article on Cycling News
>>
>> https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/i-use-inner-tubes-on- all-my- 
>> road-bikes-heres-why-i-still-havent-embraced-tubeless/
>>
>> It's a long read, and not very well written (imho), but I generally 
>> agree with the points he makes.
> 
> +1
> 
> It's an immature technology (relying on what a former RBT contributor 
> called "frog snot") but it has its place.  That place is observed 
> trials, with ridiculously fat tires under ridiculously close to zero 
> pressure with a lot of irregular bashing and twisting.  Tubes pinch and 
> shift in that environment.  The more your riding mimics that, the more 
> tubeless works for you.
>

I agree with guy completely. In fact I am not a retro grouch at all but 
some things on bikes have not proven to be all that much better. 
Tubeless tires for one. I rarely have flats and I don't deal with 
sealant and setting up tires. I can swap out a tire and tube in a hurry 
and if I flat a new tube on the road to get back. My tubes have multiple 
patches and last for years. My road bike riding is all on pavement. I am 
not going around gravel and bad surfaces unless I am forced by mistake.

Along with this I will mention another item that at least for me has 
limited benefit. I don't like cables buried in the tubes. THE standard 
exposed cables are quire easy to change out and until they manage making 
buried cables as easy as exposed I rather opt out.

My next list is the infamous press fit BB. I have BSA threaded and even 
some manufactures have come back to this standard. Much more reliable 
and almost no maintenance ever needed. Buy a new BB and go forward.

I will say the disk brakes are better and while rim brakes work fine 
disk allow better stopping in rain and when in mountains and such. They 
also allow bigger tires and less concern for wheel setup.

OK I am done but never a tubeless for me
-- 
Deacon Mark