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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: [Bitmessage] A proposal, what do you think? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:00:56 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 22 Message-ID: <vp2vup$1svfg$2@dont-email.me> References: <20250218215341.8FA542009B@hal.oc2mx.net> <vp2vpa$1svfg$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:00:57 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="606ea67ab153053e6953209e514ec0eb"; logging-data="1998320"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX194UAvFc69FPrqxtJGioTbLSgQJnxU+1/U=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:42yJ3RtG1gYzPzWpGTiiQrlBFys= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vp2vpa$1svfg$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2433 On 2/18/2025 1:58 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 2/18/2025 1:53 PM, Onion Courier wrote: >> Let's assume Bob travels a lot and does not want to take any devices >> with him, including his private keys, email addresses etc., but Alice >> wants to be sure that she is communicating securely with Bob, once he >> arrived at his various destinations. >> >> Prior his departure they both agreed on (a) shared secret(s) they will >> use. > > If this is a truly secret key, then they are already setup for a secure > channel anyway using existing symmetric encryption techniques? > > > http://fractallife247.com/test/hmac_cipher/ver_0_0_0_1? > ct_hmac_cipher=189e8b754b816c819e0dd0d9c33a65de192cc7b83213ae1a267626c6cc876515b5f3693848472fa86496b3d7ce280ef96c8bd421ad782c1682fd5f85234a39f5df0f439daabe2f01676108f5808c681b20bc0b6d95750355fad62e7ab577b5e505ef5b9ee9d8f12378021e81e97df1f9461fb1f2251190f940ad4454ef7170e353a0ed7f4879ee06e544a4e7cde58776cd02ce0d98ba52820d8f71784bf9c9e0a6badb0749b2d6a33ea1603d97da9ad1f52a4b8f8375e1bc136e362089933956d1cc3cb99883a969f8a944bbb3cc7c428caed0cb1aeb8cb170b414612553fdfe6a8f56e94d9f9ba071e6f05e [...] Or are you talking about Bob getting kidnapped, and exposed to the rubber hose treatment? Then AgentX has the secret key; Spoofs as Bob into luring Alice into a rather precarious scenario?