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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: Ove Interest?
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On 2/18/2025 7:04 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 17:58:51 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 2/18/2025 5:13 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>> On Tue Feb 18 10:29:38 2025 AMuzi  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is no such order.
>>>>
>>>> Executive orders can describe the means, methods and scope
>>>> of federal employees' work, but are not a substitute for
>>>> legislation. (or ought not to be at any rate, despite press
>>>> releases)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   From the CATO Institute:
>>> "President Trump signed an executive order aimed at protecting Second Amendment rights, directing a review of federal policies that may infringe on these rights. This order seeks to reverse regulations established during the Biden Administration that are seen as limiting gun ownership and use."
>>>
>>> The Supreme Court has aready deemed most gun control laws unconstitutional and states just like Krygowski simply ignore them. However, prosecutors already know enough not to try and prosecute anyone under these laws. The case law is settled.
>>>
>>> Now, you were saying that there was no such executive order? Why didn't you simply look it up?
>>
>> The text immediately above is mostly correct (SCOTUS parses
>> these questions more finely than you or I would prefer),
>> mostly sensible and in general agreement with what I wrote
>> above yours.
>>
>> Prosecutors continue, however to prosecute firearms charges.
>> Not all regulations, and certainly not all jurisdictions and
>> not for all violators under similar circumstances but there
>> are prosecutions.
>>
>> What you wrote a few hours ago however is different:
>>
>> "Executive Order 2A - The 2nd Amendment has priority over
>> any state law concerning the 2nd Amendment. You have lost
>> and you simply won't admit it because you side with New York
>> City and voter fraud in California."
>>
>> You most likely meant EO #14206 (there is no "2A")
>>
>> https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/donald-trump/2025
>>
>> Here is the full text (it's short):
>>
>> https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/02/12/2025-02636/protecting-second-amendment-rights
>>
>>
>> Mr Trump did not order the Supremacy Clause. That was James
>> Madison (Article VI, Clause 2):
>>
>> "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which
>> shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made,
>> or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United
>> States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges
>> in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the
>> Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary
>> notwithstanding."
>>
>> What Mr Trump ordered, as I wrote, pertains to the "means,
>> methods and scope" of Federal regulators, which is well
>> within Presidential duties.  He made no statement whatsoever
>> about States' laws because there's no need. See Madison's
>> words above, as applied by the 101st Airborne in Little
>> Rock, 1958 for example.
> 
> What's needed is more challenges to the state and local governments
> that don't obey the Supremacy Clause.
> 
> --
> C'est bon
> Soloman

Chicago and Illinois have ignored the Otis McDonald SCOTUS 
decision for 15 years now with no plans to change their 
unconstitutional policies as directly ordered.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20250218/defending-the-indefensible-court-strikes-illinois-foid-card-law

Suggestions welcome.

p.s. A wonderful and determined man, Mr McDonald:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2014/04/06/otis-mcdonald-1933-2014-fought-chicagos-gun-ban-2/

from the obit:
“I described him as a man who wasn’t a hero for one event, 
but a hero every day in his life,” Pearson said.


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Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
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