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From: Jos Boersema <Josjoha@market.socialism.nl>
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Subject: Elon Musk (a Trump gangster) made a Nazi salute in public ...
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 22:59:37 -0000 (UTC)
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title: Musk raises controversy with gesture resembing Nazi salute - BBC Africa
source: BBC News Africa
link: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iCajgbvjwHo
(256K views)

More evidence how the US ruling class is loosing its grip on reality ?
It is not debatable what this is, certainly not by someone who is in a
Cabinet position in something as large (and therefore supposed to be as
serious) as the USA (half a Continent 'homeland Empire' and then a
global Empire of client states attached to it, including the Zionist
rebel State, NATO, the EU and many others, as well as the overarching
United Nations global Empire system they set up). The question is not
what this is, but why did they (he) do it.

Personally I am wondering if the ruling class is showing signs of
destabilizing, and not managing to copy over the Hitler plan as much as
they would like. When Hitler and Mussolini came to power, there was no
(recent) precedent with the salute they chose. They chose a salute from
ancient Rome it seems, and adapted it for their own uses ? They
innovated this gesture, which was at the time not associated with the
extreme evil and bloodshed for which the Nazis later became known.

While the USA ruling class may find it completely normal to be united
with Nazis and the Nazi ideology, comfortable with their succesful
financing of the original Nazis and then having these cliques (Bush
crime family) rise also to political power (grandfather Bush helped
finance Hitler and was convicted for it), while doing the same again in
2014 in Kiev Ukraine to start World War 3, the ordinary people (not in
the least in the USA itself) do at least not explicitly share the
symbols and cultural expressions of the Nazis, but are under the
impression that they fought against the Nazis and stand against an
ideology such as Fascism / Naziism as a people. While this is probably
not true if you look at the essence of what the USA is doing (the wars
for loot, the torturing, the pretending to be the master race /
'indespensible Nation' etc), the ordinary American pretends that they
are different. The difference then may be in things like symbols and
gestures, but for many ignorant people these empty shells are what they
live for and believe in. Are the explicit Nazi / white supremacist
groups so large in the USA, that it is useful to appeal to them ? This
seems doubtful. The whole thing seems to cut directly against the grain
of USA Imperial propaganda, where they pretend that they came to bring
freedom to people, peace and justice, etc. Hence I don't see the benefit
of making a Nazi salute ? What is the benefit.

At least this supposedly Jewish source, seems to be now in the camp of
the Nazis themselves, by denying it was a Nazi salute. They are also
implicating the ADL (anti defamation league) in denying that this is a
Nazi salute.

https://www.thejc.com/news/usa/elon-musk-nazi-salute-trump-azmk3wzy

There might be reason to deny what this gesture may have meant, if all
the other staples of Fascism (or say gangsterism, criminality) where not
there, such as: Trump saying that he "feels great about torture" (which
in my opinion mean he is politically responsible for the US torture
industry, and should therefore be captured and probably get a life
sentence). Trump is strongly supportive of the worst elements in the
economy, which are the Billionaires. As has been said, you can only be a
Billionaire in this world, if you have no morality. Trump is rude in his
behavior (which is going to negatively impact all forms of behavior in
the USA, and make debating and therefore democracy function even less
well). Trump saying things like you have to take revenge at an extreme
rate, strongly supporting of the Imperial US Army (which is organized
crime, killing for profit over the whole world), his scamming and
volatle nature, repeating well known Fascist slogans like better to live
a day like a lion than a hundred years as a sheep (or somesuch), the
emptyness of his rethoric (I can't stand it, it is such a complete waste
of time to listen to this individual), his narcicism and self worship,
obsession with the national flag, ultra nationalism, on and on, all
these and undoubtedly much more (it seems endless) are the staples of
Fascism and Naziism. Trump is a Fascist, quite probably also a Nazi,
they are into dictatorship and rule by violence. Essentially they are
criminals, who wish to rule by terror and fear, to act out their
volatile nature without any restrictions either by laws or any kind of
wisdom.

Within this seething mess, for a top operative of the Trump gang
himself a Billionaire apparently, to give a strong Nazi salute (to the
heart and then out with the arm, even making a sound to underscore it),
it can only mean one thing: they are Nazi-Fascists (that much was
already obvious), and perhaps more interestingly, they are not shy to
hide it anymore either.

Which leaves another question: why are significant Jewish organizations
on the side of Nazi Fascism ? We know that the Zionist Rebel State,
which has been set up by the rich within Israel and which is now a
client state of the USA, is probably run by criminals who may also
sympathise strongly with Fascism in a general sense. This idea is at
least underscored by the events of "October 7", which seem to show how
the Israeli Army wanted this event to occur and have a large amount of
civilian casualties and victims, because how could it take them so long
to arrive at the front ? It seems the top is rotten, they wanted the
war. The war works together with the other war in Ukraine now, likely
serving as a defense mechanism for the ruling class, with the debt
crisis implosion ever looming large and larger ...

If the Zionist Rebel State is in the top run by Fascistic criminal
elements allied with the US global Empire of lies and war, then if other
significant Jewish organizations are lockstep (heh) with this Fascism,
this would not come as too much of a surprise.

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(I might add, that I shed a few tears when I discovered about this Nazi
salute by E.Musk, Trump / Fascism operator. It was emotional to see the
Nazis come back into power this way, knowing what they will likely end
up doing. Greggory Mannarino (youtube) believes the Trump group is
tasked with "bridging" the current system into a new system, which may
be about digital central bank currencies, and they may also inflict
great amount of casualties upon the people of the Earth iirc. I think
this is probably quite accurate !)

Who could have thought after World War 2 and so much Jewish effort for
the labor unions and some democracy and rights for people (political
left, when it still meant something), that serious Jewish organizations
of influence would be siding with Nazis, and how many Jewish people seem
to openly support a new Fascist-Nazi style dictator such as Trump ? This
would have been so unthinkable, that to say it out loud it may have
resulted in you getting a slap in the face and an angry look. Now, they
think it's normal, apparently. This mess thinks they will be Redeemed
soon, by 'moshiach' lol. What a joke, isn't it.

Unbelievable what a mess. I even have heard here of a secular Jew, who
lives here in my city known to someone I know, who supports Trump (!).
How can this exist ? What is wrong with you people ?! Have you lost all
sense of civilization ? I wonder if all this is going to force yet
another split within Israel, since it is unlikely that these Fascists in
the USA will unite people in a broad way. Fascists typically do the
opposite: they Divide and then spread hate, hysteria and violence.

Now the people are surprised ? Who have said over and over again (others
and also me), how USA has financed Nazis in Kiev, and that Trump is a
Fascist ? Now some people are surprised, when they see Nazi salutes
coming out of the Trump white house ? When where you going to finally
see the evil for what it is ? Going along to get along, pretending
everything is fine and someone else can fix it for you ?

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