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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 11:26:13 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 15 Message-ID: <vp7005$2pd0e$2@dont-email.me> References: <vmo1bs$1rnl$1@dont-email.me> <a52c053a-8537-4f77-849d-aba3cf51283f@att.net> <vog83h$1rvmp$4@dont-email.me> <aa0dc4b50695d3571aae1a3309c5c87736f82a48@i2pn2.org> <vohskb$28sjf$3@dont-email.me> <862117d5-9944-4eaa-9bbf-040e376c27e1@att.net> <voneac$3eut3$1@dont-email.me> <61fda474-8104-4e37-a1cc-d9fec975bdc5@att.net> <vonrm3$3hu2c$1@dont-email.me> <aced9a6c-e670-40c0-ae9b-53636b4bf97d@att.net> <voq2hj$s46$3@dont-email.me> <89d12ce1-5183-40f6-aa37-e4c1522fbc3e@att.net> <voshi3$hjfg$3@dont-email.me> <fe4bf7b0-67c6-4236-a262-7cc3a4f2c50c@att.net> <vp03bv$188u2$8@dont-email.me> <b51bc483ae36ed77846449485574f2e05c08bb4d@i2pn2.org> <vp1ibt$1k723$2@dont-email.me> <412fef253b0cce7487c30301e52aa8b3ae1bdeda@i2pn2.org> <vp2872$1o28v$2@dont-email.me> <2c490daaadda4aa226b88ff0e98a1c1f4357cb38@i2pn2.org> <vp4q0r$fdmd$2@solani.org> <4ebfd24f5b4eb2faf12a367c0dd3976b78c15c5c@i2pn2.org> <vp52vt$fi52$1@solani.org> <253cfda389d35df4232c6c6b2e4db60d59e34ebc@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 11:26:13 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5fd5b46ee2dbc38e71580a8df378aca7"; logging-data="2929678"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18LRTa/6tiiNXq7zp2tDvcJu33R2LTwTtY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vZq5vco+eTk/DiHuCNmWwVJM9Bg= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <253cfda389d35df4232c6c6b2e4db60d59e34ebc@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 2576 On 19.02.2025 18:16, joes wrote: > Am Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:05:01 +0100 schrieb WM: >> By induction all elements can be defined. This guarantees the existence >> of an infinite set. Um aber die Existenz "unendlicher" Mengen zu >> sichern, bedürfen wir noch des folgenden ... Axioms. [Zermelo: >> Untersuchungen über die Grundlagen der Mengenlehre I, S. 266] > Sure. Nobody is arguing against that. Fine. Induction covers all elements of an infinite inductive set. There is no k+1 remaining. Subtraction of all elements leaves the empty set. UF = ℕ ==> Ø = ℕ. Regards, WM