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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: Ove Interest?
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 08:00:07 -0600
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On 2/19/2025 11:19 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:53:13 -0500, Radey Shouman
> <shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 08:47:06 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Polishing up the howitzer, are we?
>>>
>>> No. My use is much more mundane.  I'm looking for a universal rust
>>> inhibiting spray that I can safely use on most everything.  Fluid Film
>>> seems to be positioning themselves as the WD-40 of rust.  The
>>> immediate problem is that I have 2 bicycles sitting outside, covered
>>> with plastic, but still rusting a little.  Evapo-Rust works well for
>>> removing rust from bicycle chains, but is not suitable for rust
>>> prevention.  I also have a shower built from painted steel sheet
>>> metal.  After about 60 years (since the house was built) the paint is
>>> flaking off and the underlying steel sheet metal is rusting.  I really
>>> don't need a bathroom remodel project at this time and prefer to save
>>> the existing steel shower.  I also have boxes of hardware, an old
>>> refrigerator that I use for storage, and steel tools that are
>>> susceptible to rust.  The equipment and tools that were zinc plated or
>>> covered with zinc primer before painting are holding up well. However,
>>> I don't have room to build a paint spray booth or power coating oven,
>>> that will be necessary to repaint everything.  For my guns, I use a
>>> tacky lube, such as chain saw bar oil.
>>
>> I have a can of fluid film, and spray it on steel objects that are
>> likely to stay outside, various bits of vehicle undersides, and so
>> forth.  "Boxes of hardware" sounds like a likely application, as are
>> steel tools.
>>
>> I believe it's essentially lanolin in some kind of volatile
>> carrier.  Smells vaguely like sheep, but not as nice as a wet sweater.
> 
> I would not be surprised if the lanolin fragrance was added to the
> formulation.  Long ago, I almost went to work for International
> Flavors and Fragrances.  I quite when I discovered the commute was
> over an hour each way.
> <https://www.iff.com/scent/>
> Done wrong, lanolin smells like wet dog.
> 
>> I haven't done anything scientific to test it, but it seems to do some
>> good, better than WD-40.
> 
> I should hope so.  WD-40 does one thing very well.  It displaces
> water.  For everything else, it's 2nd best, or equal to "mineral oil"
> which is the base oil for most oil based cleaners.
> "Uses of WD-40 Multi-Use Product"
> <https://files.wd40.com/pdf/WD-40_Multi_Use_Product_2000_Uses_final.pdf>
> 
>> It's not a paint or permanent surface
>> treatment, if it's out in the weather it will eventually wash off.  I
>> don't think it would do any good in your shower unless on those parts
>> that don't actually get wet very often.  It also stays a bit sticky and
>> may collect dust.
> 
> If it lasts through the winter, I'll be happy.  For the shower, it
> will need to last only as long as it takes for me to get setup for
> repairs and painting.  It looks like the existing 1960's paint is
> enamel, which is a VoC and banned in California.  I'm looking into
> just ripping everything out and installing acrylic or PCV wall panels
> as an alternative:
> <https://www.google.com/search?num=10&q=pvc%20shower%20wall%20panels&udm=2>
> 
> 

I have installed those.  No too expensive, not too 
difficult. If you get past the 'slumlord aesthetic' they're 
quite functional.

For my own house, I gutted the room and did it all in 
ceramic tile.

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Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
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