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From: Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
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On Thu, 2/20/2025 7:19 AM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> Paul:
> 
>> I run Okular in both Windows and bash shell, as an example
>> of cats sleeping with dogs.
> 
> Impossible: Okural is a GUI program, not a terminal one.
> 

Possible.

The "bash shell", so called, has a graphics stack called WSLg.

I run Firefox in it every day :-) Linux Firefox. On Windows.

    [Picture]

     https://i.postimg.cc/sDd22g3Q/bash-shell-WSLg-Firefox.gif

Running Linux okular is just as easy as Linux Firefox, to operate.

I can run Windows, bash shell (linux kernel) container, VMWare,
and VirtualBox all at the same time. At one time, it wasn't advised
to do that, but all of that is running under an inverted hypervisor.
The Windows OS is virtualized, as is the bash shell, and the
two VM hosts. VirtualBox had to be modified to run under an
inverted hypervisor, and between VirtualBox running in Linux
and VirtualBox running in?/on? Windows, the Virtualbox developers
have to support two hypervisor environments.

There is no block diagram now, for Windows, showing the virtualization
model. We have to guess how it works.

The Task Manager isn't well suited for measuring the activity
on the machine. I monitor the electrical power consumption,
as a double check that nothing is going on that I cannot "see".

   Paul


   Paul


   Paul