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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Microsoft admits that Windows is short-term support in realistic terms Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 12:27:56 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 63 Message-ID: <vp7omv$2uddf$1@dont-email.me> References: <q9h3rj1j2uj8t08okekkqpuu3eul30f4pa@4ax.com> <vot7uh$mm79$1@dont-email.me> <nvk6rjl9udk951o0ft0qj0irmq42kkr0nh@4ax.com> <vp056b$1a2p8$1@dont-email.me> <20250220151918.de005504b296d9ce96643281@g{oogle}mail.com> <vp7cig$2s5u4$1@dont-email.me> <20250220172916.67606176b7e0abfbb69d8cf3@g{oogle}mail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 18:28:00 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="20a66e3d34f5364ed43c6a56cfa3eaf5"; logging-data="3093935"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19b4eKz3Z/8PEhKRsSLrQQaaLRhUmvcGdU=" User-Agent: Ratcatcher/2.0.0.25 (Windows/20130802) Cancel-Lock: sha1:vjbQ3TNwBtRVVBW1/FYApC60Who= Content-Language: en-US X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://nntp.aioe.org In-Reply-To: <20250220172916.67606176b7e0abfbb69d8cf3@g{oogle}mail.com> Bytes: 3663 On Thu, 2/20/2025 9:29 AM, Anton Shepelev wrote: > Paul to Anton Shepelev: > >>> Paul: >>> >>>> I run Okular in both Windows and bash shell >>> >>> Impossible: Okural is a GUI program, not a terminal one. >> >> Possible. >> >> The "bash shell", so called, has a graphics stack called >> WSLg. > > I fear you misunderstand the terminology. In Microsoft's > "bash shell" is just a text shell, not an environment for > GUI programs. WSLg is not part of the shell. I fear you misunderstand the terminology. As a rolling release, the product has evolved over time. The original offering was "bash shell". It had no graphics. Yet, within about three days of initial delivery, some people on The Internet, had used XMing as a separate X11 server, and then ran Firefox from the loaded distro in the Bash Shell product, using XMing for graphics. I did not reproduce that effort immediately. I waited a bit before I set up mine. The initial offering was on the Insider, which is why this material is still sitting on the Insider drive today. I have newer versions of the setup in other places. But this was the first setup for me. I never upgraded or updated this initial effort. It was left for the purpose we see today, namely, taking a picture. That's why it is still there. [Picture] https://i.postimg.cc/8cDBDsVV/WSL1-Insider.gif The progression goes like this. WSL1 - Just Bash WSL1 + XMing - Now, you can run graphical packages from the installed distro WSL2 - Containerized version (.vhd), resident Linux kernel WSL2 + WSLg - Now, you no longer need XMing. This is what you see in Bash today. A DISPLAY variable is already set today. > bash $ echo $DISPLAY :0 $ firefox & <=== Firefox immediately appears, rootless, on the Windows Desktop Graphics are rendered by the WSLg stack (Terminal Services at the top of the stack, as glue to the Windows desktop). I can run Synaptic Package Manager, install additional packages in Bash Shell without using Apt if I want. I can run Nautilus. And, I can run XEyes (just because it bothers someone here...) . Paul