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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: @ SCOS Message Format ? Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 02:03:28 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <vp8mtf$33amq$1@dont-email.me> References: <a936673b2ed0cc59965b531d3bac44b4$1@octade.net> <vobg9s$smgg$1@dont-email.me> <vobnr5$tmpm$2@dont-email.me> <vobrr2$u49l$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 03:03:28 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3164bc297d053df8e36cc5957f713d4a"; logging-data="3255002"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/roXqit6EyARCUxwpYKOvP" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba git@gitlab.gnome.org:GNOME/pan.git) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TbFMcz0tToXWtO9seQ18xRulMSY= Bytes: 2889 On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 03:29:37 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote: > 01000001011... I'm afraid I haven't been following the discussion on SCOS Message Format, but would offer a comment, which may have been covered. If not here it is: Due to some recent technical challenges I have been reading USENET using two newsreaders; Thunderbird and Pan. Both are excellent, but handle certain parts of the character set differently. Under some circumstances, Thunderbird removes the caret (character 94 dec.) and makes the following character a superscript - indicating one character raised to the power of the second. This is excellent when that is what is intended. Not so good, when it is not what was intended. Pan doesn't do this. Pan uses the asterisk (character 42 dec.) to embolden characters. I think it looks for pairs and intends to act on anything between, but the rules concerning spaces and other characters may complicate the interpretation. As I recall, the asterisks are not removed. I'm not sure exactly what's going on, but a sequence of glyphs seems to result in the loss of character return and line feeds. There are probably some other more subtle consequences, but I don't think we can assume that all readers will reliably receive all the characters we intend them to receive, other than the basic alphanumeric ones, via their various newsreaders. Checking compatibility would be challenging and there isn't much you can do about it. Consequently, if SCOS introduces a lot of these lesser used characters, which may have different actions in different newsreaders, we're going to confuse all but the most technical and dedicated readers (this is possibly considered a good thing). Just a thought for consideration. -- David Entwistle