Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux advocacy
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 02:27:41 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 53
Message-ID: <vpa7fj1hjmgsv9ej28uck6ohkeb7u6eqld@4ax.com>
References: <llecmiFnttdU2@mid.individual.net> <1r0e7hp.bb6yp5z6dhnaN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <vcvabp$3bcrt$7@dont-email.me> <7pb6fjh0mrcih3gahbk9onfesi9n0ngbff@4ax.com> <vcvil8$3co45$1@dont-email.me> <o1k6fj1r84geskevh0fk3ogkldg0h47fu6@4ax.com> <vd070h$3ina5$1@dont-email.me> <vd07f3$3itrt$2@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 08:27:42 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="03016e574599073a269fee6a809846ca";
	logging-data="3780342"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18//MbI0chL5lBVTWwvqPUPcOj7jCC6B54="
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
Cancel-Lock: sha1:D1ta46smpsmV+BPBItIHuFhEXVY=
OS: openSUSE Leap 15.6, with Wine 9.0 for WinAPI
Bytes: 3539

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 01:27:47 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> And at least 2 former cola Linux advocates - Tattoo Vampire and
>> SMelzzzzz - have abandoned Linux and embraced Apple.  That tells you a
>> lot about how good Apple stuff is.
>
>Quality of advocates beats quantity any time.
>
>Ken Thompson, one of the original Bell Labs crew that created Unix, now
>80 years old, was asked last year what OS he uses, and he replied
><https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/unix-pioneer-ken-thompson-announces-hes-switching-from-mac-to-linux.88451/>:
>
>    I have, for most of my life — because I was sort of born into it —
>    run Apple.
>
>    Now recently, meaning within the last five years, I've become more
>    and more depressed, and what Apple is doing to something that
>    should allow you to work is just atrocious. But they are taking a
>    lot of space and time to do it, so it's okay.
>
>    And I have come, within the last month or two, to say, even though
>    I've invested, you know, a zillion years in Apple — I'm throwing
>    it away. And I'm going to Linux. To Raspbian in particular.
>
>Think about that: one of the original crew that created Unix does not
>see Apple’s current offering as a worthy successor to his pioneering
>work: he prefers Linux instead.


Yup, DFS is like the TERFs I sometimes encounter on Twitter/X, has so
much to say but is fundamentally wrong, standing on shaky ground.
macOS does OK as a Unix flavor, but it's more straightforward to just
use Unix itself, which GNU/Linux is the modern standard of.  If we
were to analogize OSes to major world figures, I'd be Linux, DJT would
be Windows, and Elon Musk would be macOS.  It's fair to say, I'd vote
for Trump before I'd vote for Musk.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.